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Mandriva Joins Ubuntu With a Linux For Netbooks

timothy posted more than 6 years ago | from the good-ideas-love-to-travel dept.

Linux Business 64

Slatterz writes "Linux publisher Mandriva has unveiled a version of its platform designed specifically for the new breed of mini laptops. Mandriva Mini features a fast boot-up, comprehensive connectivity support and multimedia codecs, and is adapted to work on key netbook platforms such as Intel's Atom. Mandriva previously offered a customised version of its 2008 Spring release for the Asus Eee PC, and was a distributor of Linux for Intel's Classmate PC initiative."

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Codecs? Pah! (0, Offtopic)

David Gerard (12369) | more than 6 years ago | (#25091961)

Your effete codecs and desktops are a drain on the minds of millions! Mental resources they could use to learn simple tools like Lisp and Haskell! Is time actually cubical in nature? Your 3D desktops and games and iTunes and shallow interfaces hide the true power, elegance and beauty of the command line! The One Dimensional Desktop [today.com] , with infinite compactified dimensions hidden inside like string theory - intuitive and obvious! I wrote an Emacs macro that plays one of my Ogg Vorbis sound files any time I like! How is iTunes easier than that? What is the "4" in MPEG-4? 4 simultaneous 24 hour Days within only 1 rotation of 4 quadrant Earth! Educated evil and stupid! LINUX SHALL TRIUMPH! ... I'm sorry, I meant GNU/LINUX SHALL TRIUMPH! (Sorry, Richard. Sorry. Sorry.)

That's fine but (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#25091981)

will they sell when no one can print their family photos from one ?

Re:That's fine but (2, Funny)

David Gerard (12369) | more than 6 years ago | (#25091985)

ASCII ART will return! If it was good enough for blurry Teletype pr0n in the 1970s, it's good enough for you now!

Re:Codecs? Pah! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#25092031)

Is it because I've just woken up, or does the parent post make absolutely no sense?

Shame there isn't a "-1 Should have been 'p1st fr0st'" moderation option.

Don't forget.... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#25098347)

...to pay your $699 licesing fee you cock smoking teabaggers!

The final frontier (4, Interesting)

prayag (1252246) | more than 6 years ago | (#25091995)

The final frontier for OSes is netbooks and smartphones. Everyone has to go there if they want good growth. The smart phone war is a 4 way contest between Symbian, Windows Mobile, iPhone with only (hopefully) Linux based contest coming from (yet unreleased) Android.
So, as far as the OSes go the only open race is in the netbooks and it is good to see Linux distros coming good in this category.

Re:The final frontier (3, Insightful)

David Gerard (12369) | more than 6 years ago | (#25092027)

It'll be where an open Linux netbook with a phone built-in crosses over with a locked-down iPhone [today.com] (which is what a general-purpose computer that's been DRMed to b*ggery looks like, in case anyone wondered what Trusted Computing would feel like - capricious, arbitrary and expensive).

Re:The final frontier (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#25100139)

http://nextdoornerd.blogspot.com/ features simple how-tos for ubuntu users...

Re:The final frontier (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#25225885)

OpenMoko?!

A little bit late? (3, Insightful)

tmk (712144) | more than 6 years ago | (#25092029)

I was exited when I saw the Eee-PC first. With a large install base of the same hardware base Asus could have built a new iPod revolution and break with the limitations of conventional operating systems because it was made-to-measure. But after a few month Asus blew it. At the CeBit they presented the Eee-PC with an unusable Windows XP configurations and a lot of extenions that did not or did not fully support Linux. Today there are hald a dozen Eee-PCs and I guess a hundret other netbooks with different screen sizes, hard drives, chipsets.

Re:A little bit late? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#25092103)

the eee blew it on the keyboard too. too small on the original and the 901, and on the 1000 the shift key is too small.

not as bad as the new dell mini 9 which is missing the row of function keys, and the f11 and f12 keys altogether!

the keyboard is what makes or breaks a good netbook.

Re:A little bit late? (4, Insightful)

CastrTroy (595695) | more than 6 years ago | (#25092107)

I agree, When they first pitched it, I was excited because they were talking about a $200 price point. That would have been possible if they kept the specs low, and stuck with Linux. However, they kept on upping the screen size, processor, and RAM. Now the higher end EEEs are almost on par with some of the regular notebooks, and the price seems to be ever increasing.

Re:A little bit late? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#25092291)

I agree, When they first pitched it, I was excited because they were talking about a $200 price point. That would have been possible if they kept the specs low, and stuck with Linux.

Exactly. This is another case of a partner pandering to Microsoft and getting shafted as a result.

Aside from Microsoft themselves, who was clamouring for Windows on these machines? There was no need to put that OS on their laptops, but now that they have, they need a subsequent bump in specs. Making the EEE exactly the same as all other laptops.

Re:A little bit late? (1)

Hadlock (143607) | more than 6 years ago | (#25094055)

When they first pitched it, I was excited because they were talking about a $200 price point.
 
Oh come on, how long have you been following technology trends/news? Seriously? Always add 20% to the price of hardware that has more than 2 months till release. You know that. Marketing spits out a number to the press based on a best case scenario from engineering, and then engineering does their best to match that. You CAN get an Eee for $249 with free shipping, and they DID keep the specs low and stuck with linux. Quitcher Bitchin'.
 
Of COURSE the higher end Eees are on par with regular notebooks - you expect them to not run with the massive brand recognition the Eee commands? Beyond "Macbook" and "Macbook Pro" Eee is the most well known laptop name in the market right now. Higher end laptops have much more profit built in to them, and profit is ultimately what they're after. For $100 more you get a lot more functionality, but if you absolutely need to the $250 option exists as well.

Re:A little bit late? (1)

Tim MacDonald (1062874) | more than 6 years ago | (#25106393)

You seem to forget about Thinkpad. Macs are not everything, boyo.

Re:A little bit late? (1)

spuk (86506) | more than 6 years ago | (#25106969)

Try to run current Linux/GNU desktop envs with such "low specs".

Re:A little bit late? (-1, Flamebait)

Kjella (173770) | more than 6 years ago | (#25092329)

I usually don't try to be a spelling/grammar nazi, and if you're not a native english speaker I'm sorry but:

I was exited when I saw the Eee-PC first.

You were not the first person to see it => I was exited when I first saw the Eee-PC.

install base of the same hardware base

Second "base" is redundant => install base of the same hardware

built a new iPod revolution

Revolutions are made, not built => made a new iPod revolution

could have built a new iPod revolution and break with

Could have applies to both => could have (...) broken with

At the CeBit

Remove the "the" as it's already specific => At CeBit

an unusable Windows XP configurations

"An" and plural don't mix => an unusable configuration OR unusable configurations

lot of extenions

extensions

hald a dozen

half a dozen

a hundret other netbooks

hundred

with different screen sizes, hard drives, chipsets.

Either continue or finish with and: with different screen sizes, hard drives and chipsets.

The content is good which is the most important but I've rarely had to read a comment that many times to get it right...

Re:A little bit late? (1)

seventhc (636528) | more than 6 years ago | (#25092429)

Are you sure your not a spelling/grammar nazi?
BTW it's "excited" not 'exited'.

Just my buck three eighty.

Re:A little bit late? (1)

jabithew (1340853) | more than 6 years ago | (#25095365)

Maybe he was exited? Who are we to say what he was doing at the time?

Re:A little bit late? (1)

thegux (892222) | more than 6 years ago | (#25097355)

Haha, you mean "you're".

Re:A little bit late? (1)

tmk (712144) | more than 6 years ago | (#25092431)

Thx, buty knowledge of the english language is not as bad as it might seem. I typed too fast and hit "submit" instead of "preview".

Re:A little bit late? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#25101405)

Right... its not like we have iPods with different screen sizes, hardrives, chipsets, interfaces, connectors, input types, etc etc etc...

All distros can be modifed for a 'netbook' (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#25092061)

There really isn't much difference in a customized "netbook" distro, so we'll soon be seeing many more.

The minor list of customizations needed for a netbook (besides making sure everything just works, as on all laptops):

1) fast bootup. in order to reach a sub 30 second bootup you need only two things: a lighter kernel, and pruned system services (no crond, nfs, etc).
2) optimizations for SSD. i.e., noatime in fstab for ext3/2, use of tmpfs for /tmp and /var/log. firefox cache in tmpfs too.
3) lighter application and OS defaults. i.e.: XFCE instead of gnome, and abiword instead of openoffice.

btw - check out http://onelinux.org and #onelinux on freenode for an ubuntu-based distro tailored just for 'best' netbook currently available - the awesome Acer Aspire One.

Re:All distros can be modifed for a 'netbook' (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#25092163)

Easier said than done. Creating a distro is hard work.

mods, wtf? (0, Redundant)

spazdor (902907) | more than 6 years ago | (#25093669)

Troll!?

Seriously?

Re:All distros can be modifed for a 'netbook' (1)

westyvw (653833) | more than 6 years ago | (#25095081)

Faster bootup? Like http://helllabs.org/finit/ [helllabs.org]

Re:All distros can be modifed for a 'netbook' (2, Interesting)

AdamWill (604569) | more than 6 years ago | (#25096727)

Which, to note for the record, is a project of a Mandriva developer. :) If you read westyvw's link you'll know, but to explain it in this thread - netbook customized distros do not achieve fast boot by cutting services from a traditional SysV init, that doesn't get you anywhere enough gain. They use completely customized fast initialization systems. finit is a re-implementation of the one found in the Xandros distro on the Eee; Claudio Matsuoka, one of our developers, first reimplemented fastinit and is now working to improve it and make it more generic so it can be used on multiple systems rather than being tailored specifically to the Eee.

Re:All distros can be modifed for a 'netbook' (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#25099555)

finit is a re-implementation of the one found in the Xandros distro on the Eee; Claudio Matsuoka, one of our developers,

Who, BTW, is a developer from what was previously known as Conectiva (later acquired by Mandrake, and just after that renamed itself Mandriva).

There are very good people at Conectiva Mandriva (that guy being one of them) and it's a pity many - well, most - of the old team departed for (supposedly) greener pastures. I'm sure the finest FOSS developers in Brazil once worked there.

But, like most companies which actually did real technological work in Brazil, Conectiva was heavily bashed by many brazilians who (out of an inferirity complex, i presume) preferred to think that anything made abroad had a better quality.

Hmm.. This turned into a rant, oh well.

when? (1)

phtpht (1276828) | more than 6 years ago | (#25092089)

so far no word when we'll be able to get this mini distro. guess they want to synch the release with 2008.1 in october?

Re:when? (3, Informative)

davmoo (63521) | more than 6 years ago | (#25092597)

Actually, its 2009.0 that will be (or is at least scheduled to be) released in October. 2008.1 has been in release for some time now.

Re:when? (1)

phtpht (1276828) | more than 6 years ago | (#25093173)

Yeah, I mixed it up.

Mandriva usage multiplication (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#25092421)

Recent statistics show that there are 19 Mandriva users left. Approximately 200 of those netbooks will be sold so Mandriva usage is expected to increase by more than 1000%.

Way to go, Mandriva people!

Re:Mandriva usage multiplication (0, Flamebait)

markdavis (642305) | more than 6 years ago | (#25092579)

You are full of s***.

Re:Mandriva usage multiplication (4, Informative)

fishyfool (854019) | more than 6 years ago | (#25092679)

Not true. While it doesn't have the penetration of Ubuntu, It's still consistently in the top six or seven downloaded from distrowatch. http://distrowatch.com/stats.php?section=popularity [distrowatch.com] Try it. It's way better than SuSE. I have The 2008 PowerPack, It includes LinDVD already set up, it has nVidia and ATI drivers avalable on install, it's the only distro that picked up my no name StarLogic 1680x1050 monitor and set the resolution correctly. Mandriva is flat out slick.

Re:Mandriva usage multiplication (5, Informative)

markdavis (642305) | more than 6 years ago | (#25092829)

Mandriva is a very strong distro. It has a long history, great hardware support, nice GUI install, refined GUI and text admin tools, a huge repository of packages, and several versions to meet just about any Linux need. They were the first (besides Debian) to have automatic package dependency resolution, the first to have 586/686 optimized kernels, and they still treat Gnome and KDE as equal citizens within a single distro without splitting things up. It isn't as popular as it used to be, but that is not because they are doing anything "wrong", there are just more strong players in the "market" now (which is a good thing).

Distrowatch has not been proven to be a reliable indication of number of users of any distro... although it can be a useful statistic. Personally, I known more people that have gone from Mandriva to some other distro (like Ubuntu) and then returned to Mandriva, than those who have left and stayed gone.

As for a "netbook" specific flavor of Mandriva- I think they did the right thing at the beginning, which was to just have the mainline iso (2008.1) adapt the install when it senses it is being installed on a netbook (like an EEE). Adjust screen res, adapt the draketools, change sync strategy, etc. I am not sure having a separate iso just for a single type of install is a good idea. It is more to maintain, more to download, etc.

Re:Mandriva usage multiplication (1)

Kjella (173770) | more than 6 years ago | (#25093797)

As for a "netbook" specific flavor of Mandriva- I think they did the right thing at the beginning, which was to just have the mainline iso (2008.1) adapt the install when it senses it is being installed on a netbook (like an EEE). Adjust screen res, adapt the draketools, change sync strategy, etc. I am not sure having a separate iso just for a single type of install is a good idea. It is more to maintain, more to download, etc.

One thing I never figured is why you need to download a different disc for installing Ubuntu via the command line. In an earlier version I wanted some options that weren't exposed through the GUI, but still essentially install the desktop distro. It's not like the text-based install can take much space, so I guess it's loaded up with other strange things. Plus even if you want to install a server, if you got an Internet connection it might be just as easy to use the normal one to get you booted and installing. I'm not sure what an UMPC adds of extras but it could be something of the same.

Re:Mandriva usage multiplication (4, Informative)

AdamWill (604569) | more than 6 years ago | (#25096681)

Thanks for the support, Mark. :) The Slashdot story actually missed the most important thing about Mandriva Mini - there isn't an ISO. Well, not for you to download, anyway. This is an offering intended for OEMs, not end users. We want to sell Mini to system manufacturers and redistributors to be the pre-installed distro on the system. We're not targeting it directly at end users. The idea for end users is still that if you as an end user want to install Mandriva on your netbook, use the main distribution, as you suggested you thought was the best idea. We continue to set a high priority on customising the kernel and MDV tools in the main line distribution to work well with the most popular netbooks (2009 should work well out of the box on all currently available Eee models, the Aspire One, and the MSI Wind, to name a few).

Re:Mandriva usage multiplication (1)

Threni (635302) | more than 6 years ago | (#25102103)

I'm a Linux newb who's just bought an Aspire One. I'm interested in getting Mandriva now I've heard good things about it here. Wouldn't it make sense for me to try Mini? If you're saying I should just get the main disto, well fine - I'll do that, but in that case why do the Mini distro at all? Why not built any customizations etc into the main distro instead - wouldn't that save you work, and end users confusion?

Sorry if I'm missing something here.

Re:Mandriva usage multiplication (0, Flamebait)

KingOfBLASH (620432) | more than 6 years ago | (#25096883)

Mandriva was the best distribution ever until 10 fucked it up. I was a long time user and their newest version was so buggy it was like going back five years...

Re:Mandriva usage multiplication (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#25102087)

I tried 10 and couldn't even get it to boot - the bootloader install process didn't work properly. I've heard good things about more recent versions though and would be prepared to give it another go.

Re:Mandriva usage multiplication (2, Interesting)

AxeTheMax (1163705) | more than 6 years ago | (#25095087)

Mandriva is based in France, and much of its userbase is French, and other non-English speaking languages. (As you find out if you search for help on it and keep turning up non-English pages.)

I suspect that Distrowatch which AFAIK has no non-English pages will show a lower hit count for such distros. Is there any other good reason for the now dated but English based relative of Mandriva, that is PCLinuxOS, to show a higher hit count?

Re:Mandriva usage multiplication (2, Informative)

timbo234 (833667) | more than 6 years ago | (#25100911)

Their website, mailing lists, documentation and most of the forums on the Mandriva club site are all in English. There are some French forums on the Mandriva club site (along side the English ones) but that's about it. There're also plenty of 3rd-party English speaking sites, eg. http://mandrivausers.org/ [mandrivausers.org]
I don't speak or read a word of French and I've never had a problem.

Re:Mandriva usage multiplication (1)

AxeTheMax (1163705) | more than 6 years ago | (#25105175)

I was not suggesting that there is a problem. I was suggesting that a significant proportion of its users may not visit English language websites.

Re:Mandriva usage multiplication (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#25134011)

In that case those 19 users are myself, my wife, and my 17 classmates in graduate school whom I have converted to Mandriva. I never knew we were the only users in the world.

Mandriva Spring 08 (5, Interesting)

FiveDozenWhales (1360717) | more than 6 years ago | (#25092511)

Mandriva touted their Spring 08 release as being perfectly suited for the EEE. The only problem was that the partitioning step of the installation only provided journaling file systems; EXT2 was not an option, and with the limited number of write cycles with the SSD in some models, you want to avoid any unnecessary writes. I hope this new release allows EXT2!

SSD drives and writes (4, Insightful)

SEMW (967629) | more than 6 years ago | (#25094549)

with the limited number of write cycles with the SSD in some models, you want to avoid any unnecessary writes

I've heard this said often, but the only time I've seen any actual numbers crunched, the conclusion was that it wasn't worth worrying about [eeeuser.com] :

With the Eee PC SSD, a typical user (6 hours/day, 10% write rate) will write for 36 minutes per day resulting in a useful lifespan of ~25 years in the worst assumed case [only 50% effective wear levelling, 100k writes to a sector before failure].

Besides, even if that wasn't the case, one of the things about the Eeepc is its moddability [ivancover.com] -- back up often (which you should be doing anyway), and then if/when the SSD drive goes, swap it for a new one. It'll also probably be a nice upgrade over the smallish original, given the speed that SSD drives are improving in capacity and speed.

Re:SSD drives and writes - My Experience (1)

Talkischeap (306364) | more than 6 years ago | (#25100581)

A: "with the limited number of write cycles with the SSD in some models, you want to avoid any unnecessary writes"

B: "I've heard this said often, but the only time I've seen any actual numbers crunched, the conclusion was that it wasn't worth worrying about [eeeuser.com]:"

Me: Just to add my experience with flash memory here.

This may be different, but as far as I know, all flash memory is basically the same, so...

I have a Sony digital camera, it's 6 years old now, and my rough calculations tell me that it's life cycle was less than 64,000 cycles (Shoot image, download, delete) before the drive started failing.

Perhaps flash memory is more stable now, and these older memory sticks don't have the wear leveling algorithm, of some such, but that doesn't seem like too many cycles to me.

Re:SSD drives and writes - My Experience (1)

Threni (635302) | more than 6 years ago | (#25102213)

> I have a Sony digital camera, it's 6 years old now, and my rough calculations tell me that it's life cycle was less than 64,000 cycles (Shoot image, download, delete) before the drive started
>failing.
>Perhaps flash memory is more stable now, and these older memory sticks don't have the wear leveling algorithm, of some such, but that doesn't seem like too many cycles to me.

It's usually write cycles - reading doesn't count, so in your example it'll be just shoot and delete. And delete won't write to the card either, other than to an index of what file is there - it won't physically write zeros to every byte taken up by every image you delete. This is the main reason it's trivial to undelete files from most storage media.

64,000 writes is quite a low figure compared to other flash memory specs I've seen, but it should be years before it fails. I recently bought a 4 gig compact flash card for my camera for £20 (including postage). In 5 years time you probably won't even be able to buy cards that small, and they'll be cheap, so I'm not bothered if it fails around then.

Re:SSD drives and writes - My Experience (1)

Talkischeap (306364) | more than 6 years ago | (#25108509)

"64,000 writes is quite a low figure compared to other flash memory specs I've seen, but it should be years before it fails."

Yes... it did take years, but 64k writes is tiny, so it seems like a potential problem to me.

And it happened to both of my SONY cards so it's not an isolated incident.

Perhaps my real world testing trumps lab testing, for real world results?

Re:SSD drives and writes - My Experience (2, Insightful)

Threni (635302) | more than 6 years ago | (#25109453)

> And it happened to both of my SONY cards so it's not an isolated incident.
> Perhaps my real world testing trumps lab testing, for real world results?

I don't know the details of your card failing, but it might have failed for reasons other than too many writes to the same place. It's hard to imagine you've filled it up 64,000 times. It could have been static damage, or you stamped on it or something. It's not guaranteed to work for ever. A hard drive doesn't have a known limited number of writes but they don't go on forever either.

Re:Mandriva Spring 08 (1)

code4fun (739014) | more than 6 years ago | (#25096095)

A file has a last access time attribute which stores the time of the last time the file was accessed. One way to minimize writes is to disable last access time modification. See noatime or reltime mount option.

Re:Mandriva Spring 08 (1)

markdavis (642305) | more than 6 years ago | (#25096259)

Mandriva has been using noatime as the default on ALL mounted Linux partitions since something like 2008.0 or 2007.1. I do, however, think that "relatime" (you mistyped it) is a better way to go than plain noatime.

Re:Mandriva Spring 08 (4, Informative)

AdamWill (604569) | more than 6 years ago | (#25096639)

ext2 is (and always has been) an option in the MDV installer, it's labelled "Linux native".

Re:Mandriva Spring 08 (1)

alexmin (938677) | more than 6 years ago | (#25096889)

I've been using Mandriva since 2002 and never had a reason to go back. Right now I have it up and running on more than 20 desktops and servers, more than half of those running critical business apps (like in millions of dollars). Beside being an able server distro (with appropriate version of kernel loaded) it makes for a great desktop - just google for PLF.

Re:Mandriva Spring 08 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#25097743)

The only problem was that the partitioning step of the installation only provided journaling file systems; EXT2 was not an option, and with the limited number of write cycles with the SSD in some models, you want to avoid any unnecessary writes.

How does using a journalling file system cause unnecessary writes?

Awesome (4, Insightful)

motang (1266566) | more than 6 years ago | (#25092853)

Awesome, aside from Ubuntu the other distro I really like is Mandriva. I wonder if they are going to use LXDE as the desktop environment.

Too little too late (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#25093079)

that seems to be the commercial Linux mantra :)

Most Linux users fell on the eee, and got their favourite distro on, in literally a matter of days. Once that had been pioneered, most were taking the stock distros off after a minute or so of looking at the monstorsity Asus had wrought.

The commercial distros really need to up their game, and start to get very pally with the manufacturers, that's is where the opportunity is for their business model.

Linux will always work though if you know what you are doing - so it is a matter of just watching the business drama or lack of it :)

Most of us just want the devices to be Linux compatible (drivers included), actually including a distro is worthless, but of course the MS tax is completely unpalatable.

Re:Too little too late (3, Informative)

AdamWill (604569) | more than 6 years ago | (#25096767)

2008 Spring was in fact the first major distribution to be specifically designed to work with the Eee (701) out of the box. Mandriva was ahead of virtually every other distro.

Does it work with the webcams on the netbooks? (1)

Provocateur (133110) | more than 6 years ago | (#25093233)

Did you get the webcam to work with Mandriva, I'd like to find out. And if so, what model netbook are you using?

Re:Does it work with the webcams on the netbooks? (1)

lezard (866687) | more than 6 years ago | (#25101457)

To enable webcam : $echo 1 > /proc/acpi/asus/camera
To disable webcam : $echo 0 > /proc/acpi/asus/camera

I think it exists some more user-friendly tools for this, though I have not looked for them.

Wish the article (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#25097275)

worked OK on a netbook :)

On my eee, the screen darkens, and I think some flash tries to load but doesnt.

Great!

Manbuntu, Manubuntu, Ubdriva, or Ubundriva? (1)

syousef (465911) | more than 6 years ago | (#25099909)

Yes I know they're not working on a joint system but did anyone else think of names a joint Unbuntu-Mandriva Linux might use?

Re:Manbuntu, Manubuntu, Ubdriva, or Ubundriva? (2, Funny)

mocoloco (1136259) | more than 6 years ago | (#25104931)

As long as Mandriva doesn't join forces with Linpus, no one wants to hear about Manpus.

one example of netbook which may be using this (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#25103361)

the Gdium [gdium.com]
It's not specified whether Mandriva Mini is being used, although is highly probable.
One interesting thing is the Longsoon MIPS processor, which probably contributes to the purported 4-hour battery life
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