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Lenovo's New ThinkPad Has 2 LCD Screens, Weighs 11 Pounds

Soulskill posted more than 5 years ago | from the portables-with-a-nontrivial-schwarzschild-radius dept.

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ericatcw writes "With many users now used to having multiple monitors at home or work, you had to figure someone would try to offer a 'desktop replacement' laptop that offered the same. Lenovo is the first. Its new W700ds laptop will offer a 10.6 inch LCD screen in addition to the 17-inch primary display. The W700ds also sports a quad-core Intel Core 2 CPU, up to almost 1 TB of storage, and an Nvidia Quadro mobile chip with up to 128 cores. A Lenovo exec called this souped-up version of the normally buttoned-down-for-business ThinkPads the 'nitro-burning drag racer of ThinkPads.' There is even a Wacom digitizer pad and pen for graphic artists, who are expected to be the target market, along with photographers and other creative types who are willing to trade shoulder-aching bulk (11 pounds) and price (minimum of $3,600) for productivity enhancements." At the other end of the laptop size spectrum, Dell recently announced plans to launch a rival to the MacBook Air. Called "Adamo," it is supposedly "thinner than the MacBook Air," though further details will have to wait for the Computer Electronics Show in early January.

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first post (0, Offtopic)

cpicon92 (1157705) | more than 5 years ago | (#26182211)

...had to do it

11 pounds is 5kg (5, Informative)

xaxa (988988) | more than 5 years ago | (#26183431)

I'll save everyone else having to look it up.

Not worth it... (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26182235)

I use three monitors concurrently...when will Moore's law hit notebooks with monitors? /:)

On a more serious note, I don't think I want to carry around an 11 pound laptop just to have an extra monitor.

Re:Not worth it... (1)

JazzyMusicMan (1012801) | more than 5 years ago | (#26182239)

I didn't click the 'post anonymously' checkbox you stupid system!

Re:Not worth it... (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26182323)

At least some of us know how to post while signed in

Re:Not worth it... (2, Funny)

iammani (1392285) | more than 5 years ago | (#26182337)

May be the actual poster did /ducks

Re:Not worth it... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26182581)

you're not getting any mod points with a comment like that anyway :>

Re:Not worth it... (1)

BiggerIsBetter (682164) | more than 5 years ago | (#26182511)

When? How about at the point that VR glasses and head tracking become discrete enough to wear in an office environment, and when we figure a sensible way to not block the real world from the virtual one. At that point, we don't need monitors, because we can augment reality with as many screens (or screen-less documents) as we want, in any positions we want.

Re:Not worth it... (1)

cbrocious (764766) | more than 5 years ago | (#26182621)

Re:Not worth it... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26183129)

"Resistance is futile"

Re:Not worth it... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26182561)

Intel Core 2 Q9100 - 45W
NVIDIA Quadro FX 3700M - 75W
plus 2 LCD screens?

i guess they might as well leave out the battery and just save some weight, since you're going to have to keep this thing plugged into the wall to use it.

What's the point? (5, Insightful)

lgw (121541) | more than 5 years ago | (#26182259)

I guess I'm missing the point of this. At work I plug my laptop into my docking stataion, with a 26" monitor attached (with the same setup at home - the two monitors cost far less than this silly laptop!). I *don't* want to lug the monitor around with me! If I have a desk where I work frequently, I can provide it a much bigger monitor. If I'm just walking around, I want my laptop to be as light as possible.

Really, the more I think about it, the more I'm really just carrying my disk drive around. Maybe in a year or two I can just switch to carrying a poket-sized SSD around, and have desktops at home and work that boot off that.

Re:What's the point? (3, Insightful)

chaossplintered (1164745) | more than 5 years ago | (#26182299)

Maybe in a year or two I can just switch to carrying a poket-sized SSD around, and have desktops at home and work that boot off that.

I do almost exactly that. I carry around a 32GB flash drive and I run Portable Apps off of it. Since my work, school, and home computer all use Windows, I basically have the Desktop wherever I go. The only difference is that my home computer actually has Firefox, Open Office, etc. installed, as opposed to using the portable version.

Re:What's the point? (1)

chaossplintered (1164745) | more than 5 years ago | (#26182315)

That should say "the same desktop", but I'm sure you all knew what I meant.

Right?

Right.

Re:What's the point? (2, Interesting)

hairyfeet (841228) | more than 5 years ago | (#26182505)

Have you tried FEBE [mozilla.org] for Firefox yet? I am pretty much doing the same trick and FEBE makes it so easy to keep all my bookmarks, passwords, preferences, etc synced between the portable FF and the desktop. Great little tool to have if you are using multiple Firefox browsers.

Re:What's the point? (1)

theaveng (1243528) | more than 5 years ago | (#26183105)

The point is that if you are like my boss, you are literally never at your desk. He's always traveling somewhere and he carries a laptop with a 17(?) inch screen. It's huge. He'd probably love to replace it with a dual screen that increased his workspace 1.5 times its present size.

Re:What's the point? (1)

funfail (970288) | more than 5 years ago | (#26183149)

He's always traveling somewhere and he carries a laptop with a 17(?) inch screen. It's huge.

Is it 11 pounds already? This one adds too much weight for a 10.6" screen.

Re:What's the point? (-1, Troll)

pipingguy (566974) | more than 5 years ago | (#26182345)

Loser, I have a 30" monitor! Small penis though, despite all the opportunities for enhancement.

The Point is... (1)

argee (1327877) | more than 5 years ago | (#26182401)

If you don't like it, don't buy it. Its like no one is forcing you to buy it, or lug it around. I am sure *somebody* will like it, and buy it. Man, its like saying that Chocolate Icecream tastes like shit. I suggest, then, you buy vanilla or strawberry.

Re:The Point is... (5, Insightful)

Sethumme (1313479) | more than 5 years ago | (#26182523)

It's perfectly valid to ask what the point of a product is. Not only does it invite answers that may describe a perspective not imagined by the inquirer, but it also raises the point that the product might not be worth the trouble to make if there is no interest in it.

Sure, the OP doesn't have to buy it if he or she doesn't like it. But that doesn't mean the product has any value to anyone else either. If you decide to make ice cream that tastes like shit, and you can't answer the question of "what's the point?", then what will you have after you've spent $400,000 in research, design, production, packaging, and marketing just so you could sell your product to one *somebody*? Nothing but a big pile of (cold) shit. So the question remains, who needs a 4 grand laptop that weighs 11 pounds, and are there enough of these people for the product to turn a profit?

Re:What's the point? (2, Insightful)

Dutch Gun (899105) | more than 5 years ago | (#26182487)

Seeing as you (admittedly) use your laptop primarily as a way to move your hard drive between fixed locations, this obviously wouldn't be very practical for you. I'd guess this is for people who tend to actually use their laptop regularly in remote locations, and would like more screen real-estate as many of us enjoy at the desktop. I think the point is, you get some of the benefits of extra screen space while still remaining fairly portable.

Still, seems pretty gimmicky. Should be interesting to see how it does, though.

They would be lots better off (1)

Jane Q. Public (1010737) | more than 5 years ago | (#26182609)

even given your scenario, to put the same amount of effort into a more-portable external monitor! If it's reasonably thin and light (the whole point), then it can go in the bag with your laptop.

I know of NO good reason that it should actually be built-in. That adds unnecessary weight and complication, and reduces flexibility.

Re:They would be lots better off (2, Funny)

iocat (572367) | more than 5 years ago | (#26182731)

Have you ever tried to carry an extra monitor around with you? It's a massive pain the ass. Power supplies, stands... it adds up, quickly.

Re:What's the point? (2, Interesting)

atraintocry (1183485) | more than 5 years ago | (#26182553)

I guess I'm missing the point of this.

Me too, unless it's "selling replacement batteries".

Re:What's the point? (1)

MMC Monster (602931) | more than 5 years ago | (#26182885)

Why not carry a mp3 player with a separate work partition?

Re:What's the point? (2, Interesting)

drsmithy (35869) | more than 5 years ago | (#26183065)

I guess I'm missing the point of this. At work I plug my laptop into my docking stataion, with a 26" monitor attached (with the same setup at home - the two monitors cost far less than this silly laptop!). I *don't* want to lug the monitor around with me! If I have a desk where I work frequently, I can provide it a much bigger monitor. If I'm just walking around, I want my laptop to be as light as possible.

Seconded. Particularly with the new Dell Latitudes having docking stations with dual-DVI connections, I can have a couple of 27" LCDs' worth of screen real estate at home and at work, but still only have to carry around a couple of kilos worth of hardware.

I really wish Apple had built docking stations for the new MB range. The lack of them was the single biggest reason I didn't buy one.

Re:What's the point? (1)

CrackedButter (646746) | more than 5 years ago | (#26183151)

This is sort of becoming another slashdot meme. "I guess I'm missing the point..." then follow on with the required anecdotal story. Well guess what? Not everybody works at a desk with a docking station. Different products serve different needs, at least a company other than Apple is trying to think out of the box. I'm not denying it can have flaws but let the product find its place otherwise if you don't have anything nice to say...

Re:What's the point? (1)

rdnetto (955205) | more than 5 years ago | (#26183493)

I do something similar - I have Windows XP installed onto my USB drive. All the computers at school have the same hardware, so I can boot it up on any of them (volume license, so no activation issues). If you used Linux, it'd probably boot on anything. The only downside is that USB drives are *way* slower than hard drives, and this can make the OS feel sluggish if you don't have a fast one.

Re:What's the point? (1)

xSauronx (608805) | more than 5 years ago | (#26183513)

I have a laptop and am a full-time student. I was carrying my laptop to class regularly for a while and then it hit me: duh, flash drive.I dont need to take my computer, if I know Im going somewhere with a computer, I jus tneed my flash drive with portable apps on it and Im good to go.

I understand with some apps you cant possibly do this, but its nice that *I* can. I have a T60 that isnt bad to carry, but a flash drive is easier.

Needs More Symmetry (3, Insightful)

lobiusmoop (305328) | more than 5 years ago | (#26182261)

Sorry, that laptop in the article just looks lop-sided and ugly with the sidecar-screen pulled out. Once somebody does a triptych version, let me know.

Re:Needs More Symmetry (1)

hey! (33014) | more than 5 years ago | (#26183355)

You may be right, but I think the design is functional. There are lots of ways this kind of setup would be very convenient.

You could keep the document you are working on in the main screen, and your agenda or objectives on the small one. You could have a shared whiteboard in the main screen, and a webcam feed on the small screen. Or, if you were a PHB, you could keep the powerpoint slide you are working on in the main screen and the slide sorter on the side screen.

That said, I don't think this is the best way to do it. I'd prefer a separate LCD unit with its own stand.

The perfect laptop (5, Funny)

CaptainPatent (1087643) | more than 5 years ago | (#26182279)

I'm a huge fan of dead laptop batteries, burning hot pants, and scoliosis.

This has to be the perfect laptop for me!

Re:The perfect laptop (1)

chemisus (920383) | more than 5 years ago | (#26182737)

too bad its not sony, otherwise youd be looking forward to more than just a dead battery.

11 pounds? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26182291)

did they just tape two laptops together?

Too many moving parts (2, Interesting)

gzipped_tar (1151931) | more than 5 years ago | (#26182293)

The secondary display pulled out at the side just looks so fragile to me. Especially when considering the cost of such a computer.

On the other story, does the Dell "Adamo" has anything to do with Battlestar Galactica?

Re:Too many moving parts (1)

JamesTRexx (675890) | more than 5 years ago | (#26182841)

You're thinking of Commander Adama [wikipedia.org] .
Slight difference.

A bit on the heavy side (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26182303)

"Lenovo's New ThinkPad Has 2 LCD Screens, Weighs 11 Pounds "

Maybe a car battery wasn't the best choice?

Re:A bit on the heavy side (2, Interesting)

ElNotto (517377) | more than 5 years ago | (#26182365)

You know you're reading Slashdot when 11 pounds is called "shoulder-aching bulk."

Granted, it's one of the heavier notebooks on the market but if you would really see the benefit of dual screens when working in the field it doesn't sound all that bad -- just get a backpack case.

Re:A bit on the heavy side (1)

atraintocry (1183485) | more than 5 years ago | (#26182547)

You're talking about a bunch of guys who still remember lugging their Osbournes around. Of course their shoulders are sensitive.

Re:A bit on the heavy side (2, Informative)

theaveng (1243528) | more than 5 years ago | (#26183165)

Wow that was an obscure reference. I remember hearing the word "Osbourne" but didn't recall what it was (24 pounds): http://oldcomputers.net/osborne.html [oldcomputers.net] - Now if you had said "Commodore 64 portable" then I could relate (23 pounds): http://oldcomputers.net/sx64.html [oldcomputers.net] ----- The heaviest portable ever made was the IBM PC at over 30 pounds!!! Ouch.

And finally the first laptop PC (12 pounds). It ran over 10 hours! Why don't today's laptops run ten hours? http://oldcomputers.net/ibm5140.html [oldcomputers.net] ----- And the Macintosh laptop. I like the image of a beautiful woman doing computer work *in her pool*. Yeah that would happen. Beautiful women don't use computers (ducks a spitball). http://oldcomputers.net/pics/macuser1189.jpg [oldcomputers.net]

P.S.

Free games: http://oldcomputers.net/games.html [oldcomputers.net]

Re:A bit on the heavy side (1)

bignetbuy (1105123) | more than 5 years ago | (#26183223)

Wow that was an obscure reference. I remember hearing the word "Osbourne" but didn't recall what it was

Thank you for making me feel old. "obscure" reference...sheesh.

Re:A bit on the heavy side (2, Interesting)

david@ecsd.com (45841) | more than 5 years ago | (#26183517)

It ran over 10 hours! Why don't today's laptops run ten hours?

My guess would be, judging from your links, is that the laptops of the olden days didn't have a disk driving constantly spinning, a processor that ran at about 4 mumble Mhz, and with a 640x200 display, it probably didn't require as much juice as the laptops nowadays.

I miss my last laptop which could adjust the clock speed. I had it set up that the less juice there was, the lower the clock speed. I could regularly get 3 hours out of it--of course, that was running linux and not the disk thrashing Windows.

<Aside>Seriously, what's going on? When I boot my laptop in Linux, I rarely see the hdd light flicker, but when I boot Windows, it's constantly lit up for the first five minutes, or so.

Re:A bit on the heavy side (2)

Gordonjcp (186804) | more than 5 years ago | (#26182857)

That's pretty much what I thought. Since when is 5kg "shoulder-aching bulk"? Well, assuming you haven't got some hideous degenerative bone disease or something.

I used to hitchhike from where I went to university to my parents and back with an Osborne 1 (latterly a Compaq portable) and my rucksack. I wouldn't even class that as "shoulder-aching bulk".

Thinner than Air? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26182325)

Dell recently announced plans to launch a rival to the MacBook Air. Called "Adamo," it is supposedly "thinner than the MacBook Air"

Any company that makes manufacturing a laptop thinner than the Air a priority needs to be shot. Oh wait that's right, your average consumer is actually impressed by such retarded novelty, even when the resulting product is useless.

Re:Thinner than Air? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26183201)

I agree.
Air was such a massive waste of time and money. (for Apple and the consumer)

It is so horribly buckled, it isn't even funny.

Shame on Apple for even making it. They lost some of the respect i actually had for them.
Looks like Dell has as well now.

Not the first. (-1)

ClickWir (166927) | more than 5 years ago | (#26182363)

Sorry, I forget who it was, but a couple years back someone had a working 2 and 3 LCD laptop.

The 2 LCD basically had a hinge on one side of the screen and another screen would fold out.

The 3 LCD was one main one and two smaller ones that would fold out to either side.

They looked like they sucked, I'm sure they sold -5 of them.

Great! It runs Linux, right? (0, Redundant)

argee (1327877) | more than 5 years ago | (#26182391)

Not mentioned in the article, but surely it must run Linux, right?

Dell's got the goods (1)

yetijoe (1411395) | more than 5 years ago | (#26182395)

I do find it interesting that dell has ditched the overly conservitive look... but maybe they are just figuring out that looks do sell. Then again this might be what you get when you Put a designer from Nike and a 25 year veteran from wireless industry in the room to build a computer (Ed Boyd [businessweek.com] and John Thode [cnet.com] ).

Interesting idea, poor implementation. (5, Insightful)

Shag (3737) | more than 5 years ago | (#26182405)

1920x1200 main screen, and 720x1280 side screen... did it not occur to them to have 1200 vertically on both? Also, I'm kinda thinking that for this kind of money, I should be able to buy 2 laptops providing a total resolution in excess of 2640x1280, and whatever software I need to share the screen of one as a second display on the other... and have 'em weigh less, together, than this monstrosity. ;)

Re:Interesting idea, poor implementation. (3, Informative)

Kris_J (10111) | more than 5 years ago | (#26182767)

And that software would be Maxivista [maxivista.com] .

Re:Interesting idea, poor implementation. (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26182967)

Synergy provides similar screen sharing functionality and it's opensource:

http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/

Re:Interesting idea, poor implementation. (1)

Shag (3737) | more than 5 years ago | (#26182983)

Yeah! That's the one I was thinking of, but it's been so long since I read about it that I forgot the name.

Re:Interesting idea, poor implementation. (1)

JamesTRexx (675890) | more than 5 years ago | (#26182929)

I also don't get the idea of having two different sized/resolution monitors for a laptop/desktop.
I can see where extending the desktop is useful on a single machine in the case of Windows, but when running a *nix it'd be just as useful to get two laptops (one powerhouse, one low end perhaps) and have X (Xdmx [wikipedia.org] ) extend the desktop across both machines.
If the program can run as a cluster version as well on both laptops it would be completely cool. :-)

Since Lenovo took over, Thinkpads suck (1, Informative)

religious freak (1005821) | more than 5 years ago | (#26182427)

Am I the only one that has found this? I purchased a new Thinkpad ~6 months ago and it's terrible for a variety of reasons...

I had great experiences with my previous two (IBM manufactured) Thinkpads.

Re:Since Lenovo took over, Thinkpads suck (2, Informative)

FSWKU (551325) | more than 5 years ago | (#26182527)

I've got a T60 that I bought about two years ago from Lenovo. Haven't had a single problem out of it. The only two bluescreens I've ever seen on it were related to the fact that I accidentally covered the vents and it crashed due to being too hot. Other than that, it's been a perfectly stable machine. I get around 4:30 with the 9-cell battery with the screen at full brightness and the wireless going (although constant streaming from, say, youtube, takes it to around 2:15. Who wants to watch youtube for that long, however?).

Wait, I take that back. The optical drive doesn't seem to be worth a crap anymore, but since I so rarely use discs it's not much of an issue. I have an external that I bought so I could burn lightscribe discs anyway. Thinking of swapping the optical drive for another HDD soon (320gb in there now, with the stock 100gb going in the PS3, probably going to add another 320).

Re:Since Lenovo took over, Thinkpads suck (1)

pthreadunixman (1370403) | more than 5 years ago | (#26182549)

My T400 is great.

Re:Since Lenovo took over, Thinkpads suck (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26182565)

Lenovo has always made Thinkpads, or at least has for a decade or more. IBM just decided to sell the rest of the business to them but let them use the IBM name for a few years.

dom

Re:Since Lenovo took over, Thinkpads suck (5, Insightful)

Andtalath (1074376) | more than 5 years ago | (#26182627)

Lenovo always did the manufacturing, it's just that IBM did the designs before.

Re:Since Lenovo took over, Thinkpads suck (3, Interesting)

file-exists-p (681756) | more than 5 years ago | (#26182719)

I am the proud owner of a 570e, T41p, T61p and X61s. And indeed, the T61p is the most Lenovo of the four, and it sucks (huge and hot). The X61s is wonderful (netbook sized and amazing keyboard, CPU, HD, screen and linux compatibility) but it seems that it was IBM designed.

One of my relatives just bought a T400 and his comment was "pretty cool, but the keyboard sucks a bit" ... Knowing that one of the main reason to buy a Thinkpad was the quality of the keyboard, this is bad.

Now, maybe the expensive ones are better ? People do not seem to complain about the X[23]00, do they ?

Re:Since Lenovo took over, Thinkpads suck (1)

LaurensVH (1079801) | more than 5 years ago | (#26183111)

I'm very happy with my X301, and I'm typing this on a T43p. I can't say I feel the T43p is significantly better or worse engineered. However, I haven't had the X301 very long...

Re:Since Lenovo took over, Thinkpads suck (2, Interesting)

owlstead (636356) | more than 5 years ago | (#26183187)

I just bought an SL300 and it's great, if not for the screen and the touch-pad (which is a bit of a drag, because they are very important parts of a laptop I suppose). It also has some problems with the WiFi software and Vista (maybe I'll install the XP software that came with it, or Linux).

The keyboard however is fine by me. The only complaint I have about it is that it is slightly too loud, and the Fn key is completely to the left, where I expect to find the key. Otherwise it is a brilliant thing, with easy to reach enter, backspace and cursor keys and two large shift keys. It seems that this 700 thing has got the same keyboard, and a numpad as well, which my 13.3" wide screen laptop obviously misses.

I haven't got too much experience with stinkeypads, but it surely feels and stinks like one :). This message was typed on the wonderful keyboard.

Re:Since Lenovo took over, Thinkpads suck (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26183039)

Am I the only one that has found this? I purchased a new Thinkpad ~6 months ago and it's terrible for a variety of reasons...

I had great experiences with my previous two (IBM manufactured) Thinkpads.

No, they are terrible, and the quality is increasingly getting worse. T500 is worse than T61 etc.

T500: Look at the way the battery doesn't quite fit the battery slot, the cd/dvd drive is not well fitted either. Furthermore the palm rest below the keyboard doesn't feel as ruggy as a T43. And why is the black border around the widescreen versions not the same size all the way round?

I use a T500 all day and had to use a T42 the other day and honestly the T42 feels like a much better product.

Re:Since Lenovo took over, Thinkpads suck (1)

bignetbuy (1105123) | more than 5 years ago | (#26183231)

Yes, you are the only one. My T60 and T61p both run circles around the Dells or Toshibas on the market today.

Re:Since Lenovo took over, Thinkpads suck (1)

David at Eeyore (20627) | more than 5 years ago | (#26183345)

I am now on my second R61, (upgraded to faster CPU and better graphics card), ans find them to be quite stable and well equipped for business/development use (am not a gamer, but watch DVDs occasionally)
The quality of build is not as bad as it could be...

Why? (5, Insightful)

serviscope_minor (664417) | more than 5 years ago | (#26182461)

Why? I see this word a lot in laptop threads. It's in the luggable monster threads like this one and its often in the netbook one too. I would have thought the answer was obvious, really. What I have trouble understanding is how people can fail to understand that not everyone has the same computing needs.

If you still don't understand, use the following guide:

Need as much power as you can get in a portable bos? Get one of these.

Need great portability but not much CPU? Get an eee or whatever.

Need something in between? Get a laptop.

Need a laptop which can be run over bay a tank while under water? Get a toughbook, etc...

And so on. If you're on /. and still can't see how other people still have different computing needs, then hand in your geek card on your way out.

Re:Why? (3, Insightful)

XMode (252740) | more than 5 years ago | (#26182481)

Please can you come and explain that logic to my boss.. Ans can you also include the following.

Need large amount of computing power than you never need to move, BUY A DESKTOP.

All our work desktops are slowly being replaced with laptops. No one ever moves them. They stay setup, open, on people desks, over the weekend.. I'm surprised that the cleaners haven't stolen a few buy now.

Re:Why? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26182819)

Most laptops do use a lot less power than a desktop though...

Re:Why? (1)

JohnnyBGod (1088549) | more than 5 years ago | (#26183067)

Need large amount of computing power than you never need to move, BUY A DESKTOP.

Absolutely. I'm also tired of discussing this with my friends. A desktop with the same specs as a laptop is usually around half the price. Ok, more than half at the low-end, but less at the high-end. I just don't see the point of spending double the money on something that provides no advantage at all.

Re:Why? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26183423)

Where do you work?

nutty (1)

Eil (82413) | more than 5 years ago | (#26182469)

Okay, a dual-head laptop is just an insane idea. But then again, the Thinkpad has a long history of crazy features in the product line. Good to see Lenovo is keeping up the tradition.

Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go do some hacking on my T60.

128 cores (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26182479)

128 cores! Fuck yeah!

Re:128 cores (3, Funny)

Shadow of Eternity (795165) | more than 5 years ago | (#26182519)

I think we should make a system of rating computing power that's applicable to a CPU or GPU and is measured in Internet Penis Inches. Then you can settle graphics card debates by saying "This one is rated at 6.3Epeens and this one is 7.2Epeens" and be done with it.

Re:128 cores (3, Informative)

Rufus211 (221883) | more than 5 years ago | (#26182685)

I thought they were normally called 3dmarks, but I guess Epeens would work.

From the PC Pro article: (1)

atraintocry (1183485) | more than 5 years ago | (#26182557)

The metallic-black "Adamo" laptop will reportedly be thinner than the MacBook Air, although it's unclear whether it will be as light.

Sure, it depends on whether or not they loaded Vista onto it.

(kidding)

Great (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26182571)

Now can they make it not look like a pile of shit from 1996? Thanks, the management.

Looks a tad flimsy. (1)

jcr (53032) | more than 5 years ago | (#26182623)

I'd be real nervous about someone bumping into that extra display.

-jcr

Re:Looks a tad flimsy. (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26182805)

yo douchenozzle. no need to sign your posts on /.

How funny and stupid of Dell (2, Insightful)

Cannelloni (969195) | more than 5 years ago | (#26182639)

It's funny and amazingly bone-headed Dell should mention the MacBook Air. *All it does is shift the focus to Apple's offerings!* It's not hard to build a thinner laptop than the MBA, several manufacturers have already done that (Sharp, Sony, LG). The challenge is to build something *better* than the MBA, with an operating system and application software package that equals it. Dell can probably build a super-thin Alamo, but if it ships with Windows Vista, it's still useless.

Re:How funny and stupid of Dell (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26182695)

The challenge is to build something *better* than the MBA

If the Air is the height of Apples enginering team I wouldn't like to try their other offerings. Building a dual core computer which is throttling down and shuting down cores when needed the most just seems silly to me. Not to mention the fucker is bigger than a $300 netbook for 5 times the price.

Haha, that Lenovo is insanely ugly! (0, Flamebait)

Cannelloni (969195) | more than 5 years ago | (#26182659)

The Lenovo W700ds has got to be the stupidest concept ever. Who would buy a lumbering beast like that, with a styling that might have been moderately cool back in 1993? I don't get it. This is proof the PC industry is dying. *Even uglier* than the 17" HP Pavilions.

Re:Haha, that Lenovo is insanely ugly! (1)

DMalic (1118167) | more than 5 years ago | (#26183087)

Okay, link us to the prettier example of the dual screen notebook with all the same features.

Re:Haha, that Lenovo is insanely ugly! (1)

Cannelloni (969195) | more than 5 years ago | (#26183291)

Then again, why not just use Expose and Spaces, or something similar implemented in Windows or Linux?

Re:Haha, that Lenovo is insanely ugly! (1)

DMalic (1118167) | more than 5 years ago | (#26183347)

Firstly, Windows just doesn't have anything to compete with Mac or Linux in that vein. I've tried a good ten or so different virtual desktop managers on Windows, and every single one had some sort of problem that kept me from using it. Dual monitors are effective when you're trying to work with several apps *at once*, not just categorize all the stuff you're running. You can, say, work on photoshop while observing IM/MIRC, or you can have several difference office apps open and move data back and forth seamlessly. It sounds like you're an Apple user - OSX is better geared towards one window not taking up the whole screen than Windows, but nothing can quite approach the real deal implemented in hardware. Not to mention the joy of running two screens with elegant window management software =)

Re:Haha, that Lenovo is insanely ugly! (1)

Cannelloni (969195) | more than 5 years ago | (#26183525)

Yeah, but for me personally, a laptop should be reasonably small and portable. 11 pounds (5 kg) is just not portable. I would put my money on a good external display, but to each his own.

Re:Haha, that Lenovo is insanely ugly! (1)

owlstead (636356) | more than 5 years ago | (#26183141)

A Thinkpad is a Thinkpad, so they are designed to look like Thinkpads. I've just bought one that has the same timeless design. Never mind, the laptop (an SL300) is great, save the 13.3 inch screen, which is rather worthless. I hope for Lenovo's sake the screens of this new thing fare better.

Re:Haha, that Lenovo is insanely ugly! (1)

Cannelloni (969195) | more than 5 years ago | (#26183309)

I've had two Thinkpads, a T22 and an X31, from the time when they were built by IBM and not the Chinese company Lenovo. I had to use Windows at the time, so IBM seemed the way to go. They were well built but the total antithesis of good design. I wouldn't call black, square and plasticky "timeless". I call it "butt ugly". But for people who don't care about how things look and feel, or aesthetics, or user-friendliness, then fine, go for it.

Numeric Keypads (1)

crossmr (957846) | more than 5 years ago | (#26182703)

The W700ds is so wide that it boasts a separate numeric keypad, a rarity on laptop keyboards.

They don't really have to be. I'm sitting here looking at my Dell M1710 and there is so much wasted space on this keyboard. 1)It's a gaming laptop, and what gamer doesn't have their own mouse? the touchpad could have been tossed. 2)there is a good 1 3/4 - 2 inches worth of space on both sides of the keyboard. Its flanked by 2 tiny air vents, but those could easily be repositioned/reshaped, and if the keyboard was moved to the left, you could make a pretty convincing case to fit a keypad in there.

Re:Numeric Keypads (1)

ZiakII (829432) | more than 5 years ago | (#26182947)

What gamer doesn't watch dvds on a plain or train ride? What gamer doesn't surf the internet in a library or class. The typical gamer can not operate their computer only using a keyboard. I can understand the argument they should just bring a mouse with them, but lets face it, people aren't going to do it.

Re:Numeric Keypads (1)

crossmr (957846) | more than 5 years ago | (#26183029)

Even without removing the touchpad, the keyboard could still be moved over and a keypad added, however I don't pack my laptop without my mouse, and empty space on this thing is more than enough room to use as a flat surface for my wireless mouse. I've had to do that a time or two because the touchpad just drives me nuts.

Not that this laptop would last long enough to watch a movie (if you have a power port that is a different story) most gaming laptops really don't get 2 hours battery life regardless of what they tell you.

Re:Numeric Keypads (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26183123)

What gamer doesn't watch dvds on a plain or train ride? What gamer doesn't surf the internet in a library or class. The typical gamer can not operate their computer only using a keyboard. I can understand the argument they should just bring a mouse with them, but lets face it, people aren't going to do it.

but they are. the key pad sucks so much on most laptops, on top of the fact that as we advance into new technologies, innovative design gives birth to portable mouses that just make sense. look at the logitech VX nano, now there's a sexy piece of tech right there.

Multi-screen laptops (1)

loonycyborg (1262242) | more than 5 years ago | (#26182713)

I'm sure they will be as successful as multi-turreted tanks [wikipedia.org] .

mod 3orwn (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26182717)

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Disgusting... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26182803)

...That thing is just gross...

Why is this being posted? (1)

guacamole (24270) | more than 5 years ago | (#26182893)

I thought it was against slashdot's policy to make porn posts.

Ha ha ha (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26182933)

My EEE 901 totally 0wns your Lenovo whatever-its-called.

Would it work on a smaller chassis? (2, Interesting)

theanorak (533531) | more than 5 years ago | (#26183063)

As other commenters have mentioned, it's about the trade off.

I guess I'd fit into the target market, as I'm a graphic designer and video editor, so more screen and more power are always nice. But I can't see me ever going larger than the 15.4" screen laptop I have now.

Why? Because, as nice as a bigger screen/more screens would be, it would guarantee that I couldn't do anything until I reached my destination unless I carried a smaller laptop as well. The laptop I have (Dell D820) is awkward on planes unless travelling business class or above, as it's slightly too big to fit on a tray table comfortably. Ditto for train travel (in the UK) -- even at a "table" seat (2 pairs of seats facing, separated by a small table) it's necessary to have the laptop uncomfortably close to the edge of the table so as not to use all of the table space belonging to the person opposite.

It seems to me that the extending display tech would be more suited to a smaller laptop -- if it can be made to work -- so you can have portability but still have a sizable working desktop when you have the space.

Re:Would it work on a smaller chassis? (1)

owlstead (636356) | more than 5 years ago | (#26183213)

Until you can fold a screen, you will probably never use a larger than 15 inch screen. Maybe if you have a tablet design you may opt for 17 inch (I think these separate tablets are nice, but having a good touch screen in the future is probably easier to use).

You'll probably better off asking the client or whoever you travel to to put a nice big screen ready. The current laptops can drive quite high res external screens.

This new laptop from Lenovo is what I call a "luggable". It's not a laptop at all since you don't want ever to place it there. It's just a computer you can put in your car to work at multiple places. The maximum distance to lug this thing around should be around 20m. I don't even see this one being used on the couch.

Good thing is, you can put it next to you in the car, since thieves will probably not be able to steal it due to the size and weight :)

virtual desktop (1)

julian67 (1022593) | more than 5 years ago | (#26183167)

The more I think about it the more it looks like A Microsoft version of the virtual desktop.

It's a trap (1)

DynamiteNeon (623949) | more than 5 years ago | (#26183357)

I used to own an older Inspiron from Dell which was huge. You will hate it the first time you have to take it thru an airport screening.

It was an ok machine, but way too large to really be considered a "lap"-top.

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