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AT&T To Acquire T-Mobile From Deutsche Telekom

timothy posted more than 3 years ago | from the drei-ist-genug dept.

Communications 748

teh31337one writes "AT&T and Deutsche Telekom have entered into a definitive agreement for the sale of T-Mobile USA for $39 billion in cash and stocks. Press release here." Gripes one anonymous reader: "Americans will have even less choice now when it comes to cell phone carriers. Say good-bye to the one that had the best customer service and was most friendly towards Android and rooting."

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Not gonna lie (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35552290)

This is bad.

Bad? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35552320)

You must hate America and Jesus, too.

Re:Bad? (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35552426)

Stop trying to make this a religious argument from the comment

This is bad.

Go elsewhere please. We want intelligent or at least "semi-logical" trolling here.

Re:Bad? (0)

MichaelKristopeit410 (2018830) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552528)

who is "We"?

you are NOTHING

Re:Bad? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35552584)

And I... am Alan Partridge.

Re:Bad? (-1, Troll)

MichaelKristopeit411 (2018832) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552708)

you contradict yourself, coward.

you're an ignorant hypocrite.

Re:Bad? (1)

hedwards (940851) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552470)

Jesus? What has he ever done for me?

Re:Bad? (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35552514)

Jesus? What has he ever done for me?

He committed suicide (then got better) to satisfy your end of a contract that you never agreed to.

Re:Not gonna lie (-1, Troll)

Crudely_Indecent (739699) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552542)

This is bad.

The things that pass for "Insightful" these days.....

Re:Not gonna lie (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35552598)

That too with that awful phrase "Not gonna lie" of course you're not going to, why would you? It's such a stupid thing to lie about.

Re:Not gonna lie (5, Funny)

mcavic (2007672) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552596)

Not bad from where I stand. We have too many carriers, and I'd like to see US Cellular get absorbed next. Fewer carriers means more revenue for the remaining ones, and thus more money for upgrades. Also, fewer competing towers = less wasted infrastructure.

Re:Not gonna lie (2)

hedwards (940851) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552672)

Right, because we all know that's what happened when AT&T merged with Cingular. Oh, wait, you say that the service got a lot worse when that happened? How could that possibly be, I mean it's not like AT&T would use the gains in efficiency to line its pockets while providing substandard service.

Around here the problem is a lack of providers. I'd like to sign up with US Cellular, but they aren't available here. Around here we've got Verizon, Sprint, T-Mobile and AT&T. I think that Boost might be available, but that's it. If this isn't a violation of Clayton, I'm really curious what it takes to get flagged as violating that.

Re:Not gonna lie (0)

mcavic (2007672) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552746)

Around here the problem is a lack of providers. I'd like to sign up with US Cellular, but they aren't available here. Around here we've got Verizon, Sprint, T-Mobile and AT&T.

So you have three providers to choose from -- that's not a monopoly to me.

Re:Not gonna lie (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35552704)

Fewer carriers means more revenue for the remaining ones, and thus more money for upgrades

+5 Funny

Re:Not gonna lie (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35552744)

Fewer carriers means more revenue for the remaining ones,

Especially since it gives the remaining carries less incentive to remain competitive.

...and thus more money for upgrades.

Ideally, yes. In practice, not so much. The problem with that is, CEO's like new yachts more than they like happy customers.

This is great for the consumer! (4, Funny)

straponego (521991) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552306)

Less competition will lead to greater efficiencies and lower prices for consumers. Why are you all laughing? There's a first time for everything. And on this one, we're DUE!

Re:This is great for the consumer! (2)

bmo (77928) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552340)

They must love you at the casino.

Doubling down, eh?

--
BMO

Re:This is great for the consumer! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35552486)

As much as this is a truly bad thing, there is one area where this will lead to greater efficiency...network coverage. Both AT&T and T-Mobile customers who previously had poor service in certain areas will, once everything is integrated, get better service in those areas. It will take a while before AT&T can let the network stagnate to the point where the service sucks again.

Re:This is great for the consumer! (1)

AlamedaStone (114462) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552638)

As much as this is a truly bad thing, there is one area where this will lead to greater efficiency...network coverage. Both AT&T and T-Mobile customers who previously had poor service in certain areas will, once everything is integrated, get better service in those areas. It will take a while before AT&T can let the network stagnate to the point where the service sucks again.

Sooo... from my experience, Verizon Wireless is deplorable and despicable in their customer service and billing practices, respectively. I've heard from family members that AT&T has some ugly issues, but I haven't experienced them personally. My impression is that T-Mobile is the best of the three, and my experience with them has been better-than-average service and coverage, and consistent accuracy in billing.

I'd love to hear people's experiences with other providers, so I have somewhere to go when T-Mobile gets gobbled up.

Borgification (1)

iluvcapra (782887) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552312)

SBC service and connectivity with T-Mobile handsets.

Re:Borgification (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35552334)

Does that mean I can get ATT to support my Nexus S?

Re:Borgification (1)

iluvcapra (782887) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552370)

Not the good T-Mobile handsets. You can't put an AT&T SIM in your Nexus now?

Re:Borgification (1)

hedwards (940851) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552498)

You can, the issue is that they don't use the same spectrum for 3G. You can talk just fine and get data over edge, but you're not going to get 3G speed.

OTOH, it's AT&T you're not going to bet 3G speed anyways, even if your phone can handle it. Or at least that was the case when I had a phone capable of using AT&T 3G service.

Re:Borgification (2)

Jedi Holocron (225191) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552424)

No, you will continued to be serviced by t-mobile folks locked away in some far corner of customerservicelandia.

I used to be an AT&T Wireless customer who was then gobbled up by Cingular who was then gobbled up by AT&T. I was still, however on my old AT&T Wireless account/plan. Every time I would call and talk to someone, they would eventually stop and "Oh, sorry, you're one of those old AT&T Wireless customers. I need to transfer you. And yeah, you're right, I can't offer you a better plan." I'd then be transferred to someone who, oddly, was actually helpful.

Re:Borgification (1)

TClevenger (252206) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552642)

I was told that I couldn't add another phone to my share-plan account unless I converted all of my existing phones from AT&T to Cingular, which meant all new phones and new contracts.

Re:Borgification (2)

Arch_Android (1989386) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552428)

I guess this is the end of subsidized Nexus phones, for GSM networks anyway. But really, now Sprint is the only non-evil carrier left!

Fucking Great (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35552316)

The terrorists have definitely won.

Re:Fucking Great (2)

Tekoneiric (590239) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552378)

You mean this is a victory for the Empire. Which makes Verizon and Sprint the only support for rebel forces.

Re:Fucking Great (1)

hedwards (940851) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552520)

I've heard good things about Boost mobile, but the CDMA carriers have their own issues, like Sprint refusing to activate phones which don't have their insignia on them, even if the phone is the same model that they normally allow.

Deal still subject to regulatory approval (4, Interesting)

dwhitaker (1500855) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552322)

As a former AT&T customer and a current T-Mobile customer, I am very disappointed by this. However, the deal is still a year away and subject to regulatory approval.Perhaps we can hope that the government makes a move to protect consumers for a change?

Re:Deal still subject to regulatory approval (5, Informative)

PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552356)

However, the deal is still a year away and subject to regulatory approval.

However, the deal is still a year away and subject to regulatory lobbying and bribery.

Re:Deal still subject to regulatory approval (4, Funny)

dwhitaker (1500855) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552400)

However, the deal is still a year away and subject to regulatory lobbying and bribery.

True, but subject is the key word. It might not happen... right?

Re:Deal still subject to regulatory approval (4, Insightful)

davester666 (731373) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552446)

AT&T is blowing $39 BILLION for the company. They can afford a few ten's of millions of dollars for "permission" to go ahead.

Re:Deal still subject to regulatory approval (1)

Dracos (107777) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552740)

Surely AT&T could fix up their own network for less than the cost of T-Mobile.

Re:Deal still subject to regulatory approval (3, Informative)

Tekoneiric (590239) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552394)

Hopefully they'll stop this as AT&T and T-Mobile are the only major GSM players in the US.

Re:Deal still subject to regulatory approval (3, Insightful)

straponego (521991) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552398)

The only people who will benefit from this are the executives. They'll lay off tens of thousands and stick the money in their own pockets. Plus millions of customers who fled AT&T's fucking horrible network are now going to be forced to give them even more unearned money (at least in early termination fees). The bigger the crime, the safer the crook.

Of course, some will claim that this will help AT&T's network. That a dollop of shit in a glass of wine is wine, not shit. Bottoms up!

Re:Deal still subject to regulatory approval (4, Interesting)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552460)

Plus millions of customers who fled AT&T's fucking horrible network are now going to be forced to give them even more unearned money (at least in early termination fees)

I thought that by law, a utility service contract had to give the subscriber an option to cancel without ETF should the provider make material changes to the terms.

Re:Deal still subject to regulatory approval (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35552482)

Executives need to buy another company to lay off tens of thousands?

Re:Deal still subject to regulatory approval (1)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552516)

I fled T-Mobile in '09 for AT&T, T-Mobile in Portland and Seattle had been dropping calls for about 8 months, got into rural Washington and there was nothing.

My mother is on a jailbroken iPhone 3GS on T-Mobile, wonder when she's going to email me to complain.

Re:Deal still subject to regulatory approval (5, Informative)

Wonko the Sane (25252) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552408)

The only reason I chose T-Mobile was because it wasn't AT&T.

Re:Deal still subject to regulatory approval (2)

fishthegeek (943099) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552450)

Perhaps we can hope that the government makes a move to protect consumers for a change?

I wish I shared your optimism but, It ain't looking good for us. [opensecrets.org]

Re:Deal still subject to regulatory approval (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35552518)

There is no good reason for FCC to block this. There is at least one or more likely two other carriers everywhere T-Mobile has signal. The fact that it will be the only GSM is irrelevant. The next iteration of the two major networks (Verizon and AT&T) is going to be LTE. And there is WiMAX in the mix.
It seems the deal will go through, unfortunately.

you say good-bye, i say hello (0)

MichaelKristopeit407 (2018814) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552324)

T-Mobile isn't going anywhere... now T-Mobile customers will benefit from access to the existing AT&T network

Re:you say good-bye, i say hello (3, Insightful)

ZosX (517789) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552360)

Except that the two carriers use two different bands for 3g data and T-Mobile customers could already roam on AT&Ts network, but at edge only speeds.

This is bad. As a t-mobile customer I'm going to be awfully sad the day I have to give up my unlimited tethered internet. Sprint is looking like the only real option left and I really detest the $10 smartphone tax just on fucking principle.

The promise of unlimited wireless internet is looking bleaker and bleaker by the day.

Re:you say good-bye, i say hello (-1, Flamebait)

MichaelKristopeit409 (2018828) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552440)

so start your own wireless internet company, and promise your customers unlimited access.

are you not free to do so?

why do you cower behind a chosen pseudonym? what are you afraid of?

you're completely pathetic.

Re:you say good-bye, i say hello (1)

SuricouRaven (1897204) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552490)

Sure. All you need is enough money to hire some professional networkers, buy the right of way to lay fiberoptic cables across at least a good part of one state, rent or buy land on which to place your cell stations, buy a licence to a block of spectrum from the FCC (Which alone will easily top a billion dollars - that spectrum is in very high demand) and then operate the whole expensive infrastructure until you have enough customers to break even. All while fending off every legal trick the incumbents have at their disposal to get in your way. How hard can it be?

Re:you say good-bye, i say hello (-1, Troll)

MichaelKristopeit410 (2018830) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552608)

i'm sure spending more time putting the necessary actions in terms of how "hard" they are is the most direct route to achieving a stated necessary goal.

you're an ignorant hypocrite.

continue with your whining, feeble inaction.

you're completely pathetic.

Re:you say good-bye, i say hello (1)

ZosX (517789) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552674)

Look at his comment history.....don't feed the troll......

Re:you say good-bye, i say hello (-1, Flamebait)

MichaelKristopeit412 (2018834) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552722)

you're an ignorant hypocrite.

cower in my shadow behind your chosen pseudonym some more, feeb.

you're completely pathetic.

Re:you say good-bye, i say hello (2)

tchuladdiass (174342) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552712)

Except that the two carriers use two different bands for 3g data and T-Mobile customers could already roam on AT&Ts network, but at edge only speeds.

Actually, you can only roam when you are in an area without native coverage. So if T-mobile serves your area (but with spotty coverage), and an AT&T tower gives you a better signal, you can't roam to the AT&T tower.

Monopoly (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35552332)

Are we ever going to break up AT&T?

Re:Monopoly (4, Informative)

lrobert98 (1936734) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552342)

You mean again? :-)

NOOOO! (2)

arashi no garou (699761) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552338)

I switched to T-Mobile strictly to get away from AT&T's bullshit yet stay with a GSM carrier! And I love T-Mobile's support as well, though AT&T's wasn't that bad to be honest.

This still stinks to no end though. And the worst part is, I can't take my N900 to any other US carrier, as only ATT/TMO is GSM here.

Fuck.

AT&T-Mobile (1)

Jedi Holocron (225191) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552352)

Well, clearly, there can be only one.

This sucks, IMNSHO.

Don't worry Citizens! (5, Insightful)

Haedrian (1676506) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552366)

The free market will save us!

Any minute now...

Re:Don't worry Citizens! (1, Insightful)

Wonko the Sane (25252) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552420)

If only we had one it might.

Re:Don't worry Citizens! (3)

DesScorp (410532) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552438)

The free market will save us!

Any minute now...

I don't know who is worse; the people that bitch about how much better it was when there was one Ma Bell, or the people that bitch when a company merges or buys out another company.

Re:Don't worry Citizens! (1)

517714 (762276) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552656)

The former will die out first, if it helps in your decision process.

Bigger is bad! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35552368)

T-mobile at least had good sounding service and wasn't as sleazy with their business practices. I have enough AT&T stories to fill a book!
Haven't we learned ANYTHING about the size of companies lately? As they get bigger, they become less effective and less customer focused.
Have you ever seen ANY merger that benefited it's customers? Ever? Remember, in the USA, the customer is not the customer, the STOCKHOLDER is the customer. Why do we tolerate this garbage?

Gave up hope long ago (5, Interesting)

Drakino (10965) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552372)

I gave up hope on the mobile industry in the US long ago. When T-Mobile and AT&T couldn't even use compatible frequencies for 3G, the hope of cross carrier compatibility died a long time ago. GSM is only great when you can buy an unlocked phone, choose a provider and pop in a SIM, then change on a whim while paying lower monthly prices due to the lack of a subsidy. This is one of the many benefits Europeans enjoy, along with good roaming agreements to ensure they can make a call even if their own provider doesn't cover the area well. I still look back to 2004 when I had an unlocked Sony Ericsson phone from T-Mobile that I used in Europe for a bit. Bought a SIM in London, traveled into the Netherlands, around Germany and a bit into Switzerland. At one point, my phone saw 9 different providers it was willing to use for emergency calls, and 4 or so of those it was willing to roam on for everything else.

Since none of those benefits ever came to the US, I hold some hope in that this merger will bring some good. AT&T is pledging a bigger LTE rollout, including to rural parts of the US. This is desperately needed, as many rural areas have dial up and satellite based options only. Dialup is near unusable these days, and satellite adds too much latency, negating benefits from Web 2.0 based sites, and conferencing/communication software. Low caps also prevent rural users from taking advantage of services like Netflix.

Remember: ATT Illegally Tapped Our Phones (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35552594)

GSM is only great when you can buy an unlocked phone, choose a provider and pop in a SIM, then change on a whim while paying lower monthly prices due to the lack of a subsidy.

T-Mobile will give you the code to unlock your phone on request for customers of 3 months or more (I believe).

ATT will not.

I don't want anyone to forget their illegal warrantless wiretapping [wired.com] and the massive lobbying effort get themselves retroactive immunity [gizmodo.com] for their cooperation over the illegal spying [eff.org] on you.

Re:Gave up hope long ago (1)

AlamedaStone (114462) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552714)

AT&T is pledging a bigger LTE rollout, including to rural parts of the US.

They have a nice corporate logo, I think we can trust them.

AT&T quality (1)

r_pattonII (1960654) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552380)

So AT&T is going to drag down T-Mobile too! So so sad. What ever happened to protecting a brand name in a business. Is business changed that much over the years where the protection of a brand name is meaningless. The days of AT&T "Worldnet" evidently haven't evolved successfully enough as spoken by AT&T's current customers because the lack of quality service. This also speaks to the motivation for T-Mobile to willingly be bought out by AT&T. Again - so, so sad.

Priorities, people!! (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35552406)

Yeah, service and pricing is definitely a concern, but what about the key question - will Carly Foulkes still continue to be featured in the T-mo ads?

Re:Priorities, people!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35552560)

MOD PARENT UP!

Re:Priorities, people!! (1)

517714 (762276) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552710)

AT&T is doing the buying. They're going to keep the dumpy guy in the bad suit. I'm assuming here that truth in advertising will prevail.

NOOOOOOOO (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35552410)

One thing I love about T-Mobile is its billing. The rate is reasonable and there are no taxes and fees tacked on, really no surprises at all in that dept. Coverage is generally good.

I guess that's going to change, soon.

You GSM losers laughed before... (1)

Tumbleweed (3706) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552412)

CDMA is your daddy now! :)

This is SO not what I was hoping would happen. I was hoping T-Mo USA would buy Clearwire for the spectrum and then upgrade all their stuff to LTE. *sigh*

I guess all we need at this point is for Verizon to buy Sprint and convert all the towers to LTE with that claimed 'software update'.

The pollyanna part of me wonders if AT&T adding T-Mo's towers to their network could solve their problems, but I'm not sure it was ever a coverage issue, was it?

Not Again... (1)

Dr_Ish (639005) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552414)

We had been with Centennial Wireless for years, until they were bought out by a combination of AT and T and Verizon. Our region went to Verizon. Thus, as we have to be on a GSM network, we were faced with a choice between AT and T and T-mobile. We went with T-mobile, as AT and T are notoriously unreliable around these parts. T-mobile also offered a much better deal and great prices on great phones. However, if the AT and T and T-mobile deal goes through, we will have no alternatives. The reason we require being on a GSM network is because we travel quite a bit and most of the world (with the exception of the US and Japan) use GSM. Thus, when we travel, we can just change out sim cards and our phones continue to work. It is also the case that being on GSM enables us to get texts from all over the world. These are not options with CDMA and LTE networks. So, it sounds like this deal between AT and T and T-mobile will mean that AT and T will become a monopoly carrier for anyone who travels frequently outside the US. I wonder whether the FCC and the FTC will take this into consideration before they rubber stamp this deal to go through. Has anyone else had to face this conundrum and found a solution?

Re:Not Again... (1)

Kizeh (71312) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552484)

Actually, if you have a 3G/UMTS phone that uses normal international frequencies, they now work in Japan as well. I've used a Nokia E61, Sony-Ericsson K600i and will be taking my N8 with me on the next trip. Also, T-Mobile had much better (still exorbitant, though) international roaming rates.

Why would your quality of service drop? (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552612)

We went with T-mobile, as AT and T are notoriously unreliable around these parts.

It's not like the T-Mobile towers will be taken down by a cackling AT&T. If you get good reception now, you should continue to get good reception as AT&T also starts using the local T-Mobile towers... in fact I see that as being the one bright spot here, that the GSM network towers across the country are combining and this should really help customers of both carriers get better reception (and AT&T customers get better service out of major cities as it seemed like T-Mobile had better coverage outside cities).

It is unfortunate that you'll probably be having to pay AT&T global roaming charges, they are I think pretty expensive (I've also travelled internationally). One solution I've read about recently is that you can buy something like a MiFi to be picked up at an airport abroad, that would give you data services with around 1GB of bandwidth which would be awesome for a trip.

Re:Why would your quality of service drop? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35552734)

AT & T would take the towers down to sell the scrap the minute they realized they could get away with it. Who are you kidding? I wish I was being hyperbolic but satire has become far too much like reality lately. That's the unfortunate problem with near unlimited data, soon enough every possibility is imagined and reality becomes the only thing left to gamble on...woah full circle.

Re:Not Again... (1)

Drakino (10965) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552684)

LTE requires SIMs too. Currently, Verizon's LTE network is data only, with voice still going over their CDMA network. This will change in time to have voice also going over LTE.

quoting the unverified gripes of anonymous cowards (0)

MichaelKristopeit407 (2018814) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552416)

slashdot = stagnated

Well, POOP! (4, Insightful)

IonOtter (629215) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552430)

I have been a loyal T-Mobile customer for 8 years, and I've NEVER regretted the move for a single second.

I pay $50 a month for nation-wide no roaming coverage, 500 texts, IM, international calling, 600 free anytime minutes and free nights and weekends. NOBODY has a deal as good as that for what you get. Not Verizon, not AT&T, not Sprint...nobody.

I loved that T-Mobile would sign contracts with "small fry" to extend their coverage to areas previously untouched. When I moved, my cellphone said "Sun-Com" for nearly 2 years, but I never paid a penny more. They finally put a T-M tower in my area, and service has been outstanding!

Now I have to move to the Death Star?

And be lied to, over-charged and spied upon?

Fuck you, AT&T.

Maybe I should go pre-paid.

Re:Well, POOP! (1)

arashi no garou (699761) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552568)

Maybe I should go pre-paid.

That's what I am considering as well. My contract runs out around the time this deal is scheduled to close, so I wouldn't have any ETFs to worry about. The question now is, are there any decent prepaid GSM carriers in Georgia, that also offer good 3G data rates?

Re:Well, POOP! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35552602)

We had SunCom previously as well and the transition from SunCom to T-Mobile was transparent and had no problems whatsoever. I've contacted their customer support twice over 3 years and both times they were nice and helpful even though the problem was with myself. We don't have 3G in my small town (Darlington, SC), but I've never been happier with them.

Re:Well, POOP! (1)

zixxt (1547061) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552680)

I have been a loyal T-Mobile customer for 8 years, and I've NEVER regretted the move for a single second.

I pay $50 a month for nation-wide no roaming coverage, 500 texts, IM, international calling, 600 free anytime minutes and free nights and weekends.

I pay $50 a month for nation-wide,I get paid roaming coverage with Verizon, free roaming on Sprints network, Unlimited texts, IM, international calling, Unlimited minutes .

NOBODY has a deal as good as that for what you get. Not Verizon, not AT&T, not Sprint...nobody.

My deal beats your deal IMHO....

not that great of a deal. (1)

OrangeTide (124937) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552716)

Virgin mobile is half that price, with unlimited internet for your smartphone and no contracts. I used to be a T-mobile customer until I realized it wasn't really that great of a deal. I've found sprint's network (which is what virgin uses) to have better coverage than T-mobile as well.

Obligatory predictions. (4, Interesting)

MrCrassic (994046) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552442)

Negatives:
  • Data and voice plans will go up at least $10 more per month.
  • T-Mobile was the only carrier that had truly unlimited tethering. (You paid for 5GB buckets; they capped your bandwidth after that.) That will go away.
  • The only major GSM provider in the US will be AT&T, unless Verizon switches to GSM and forces millions to migrate. (Unlikely to be the opposite case.)

Positives:

  • We'll finally have massive 3G/4G coverage.
  • T-Mobile annually won awards for their incredible customer service. Hopefully AT&T adopts their paradigms.
  • With AT&T being the only GSM carrier in the US, manufacturer agreements will be way easier and, thus, we'll finally be getting a vast selection of high-end phones. (T-Mobile has been steadily improving in this front.)
  • HOPEFULLY AT&T customers will get UMA (GAN), probably one of T-Mobile's best and most exclusive features. They would be incredibly short-sighted to throw that technology away.

One could argue that smartphone handsets might be more "locked down" over time, but I never saw AT&T handsets being more locked down in any way than their T-Mo counterparts. They might throw more crapware in (can't believe I'm using that term for my phone), but as long as rooting exists, there will be ways of removing them.

While I'm making armchair predictions, Verizon will buy Sprint within the next two years. Sprint has been losing customers for a while now and their WiMAX technology isn't taking off fast enough. I hope the FCC does something to control the monopolies that will ensue when that happens. This should get interesting really quickly.

Re:Obligatory predictions. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35552698)

T-Mobile annually won awards for their incredible customer service.

Means nothing. In most markets, Verizon kicks their asses in every regard including customer service according to Consumer Reports.

Sprint has been losing customers for a while now ...

Sprint sucks everywhere. The rest of the carriers should just crush Sprint and pick over its carcass - towers, leases, etc...

Re:Obligatory predictions. (4, Insightful)

whoever57 (658626) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552720)

# T-Mobile annually won awards for their incredible customer service. Hopefully AT&T adopts their paradigms.

Yeah, good luck with that. Chance of that happening: 0%

# With AT&T being the only GSM carrier in the US, manufacturer agreements will be way easier and, thus, we'll finally be getting a vast selection of high-end phones. (T-Mobile has been steadily improving in this front.)

Again, good luck with that. AT&T offers iPhones, what else do you want? You don't want that commie Android system do you?

# HOPEFULLY AT&T customers will get UMA (GAN), probably one of T-Mobile's best and most exclusive features. They would be incredibly short-sighted to throw that technology away.

The main reason I like T-Mobile. I can travel internationally and pay for calls as if I were still in the USA.

Speaking as a customer (1)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552444)

Americans will have even less choice now when it comes to cell phone carriers. Say good-bye to the one that had the best customer service and was most friendly towards Android and rooting.

All I can say is - at least it wasn't Verizon. I left them for T-Mobile a number of years ago, specifically because of bad customer support and absurd restrictions (such as not letting you use a phone's Bluetooth capabilities to upload your address book and calendar).

This definitely sucks, though.

so.... (5, Funny)

Carebears (1867786) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552448)

AT&T&T

Look North (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35552456)

Now Americans can look forward to a taste of the Canadian cellular telecom industry.

All you iPhone users bankrolled AT&T... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35552458)

... all now you destroyed the cell industry for the rest of us.

Re:All you iPhone users bankrolled AT&T... (-1, Offtopic)

MichaelKristopeit409 (2018828) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552508)

who is "us"?

you are NOTHING

We used to break up monopolies. (4, Insightful)

Beelzebud (1361137) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552500)

Now we celebrate them! All hail the invisible hand!

Re:We used to break up monopolies. (-1, Offtopic)

MichaelKristopeit411 (2018832) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552644)

who is "we"?

you are NOTHING.

Passing the torch (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35552506)

Stand strong Sprint...stand strong

Ze Germans (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35552526)

Funny how T-Mobile is an underdog in the US and people seem to actually like them there (or hate them less than the competition). At home they're the ex-monopoly. They have the highest prices and the most civil-servant like customer service.

They must be a different company in the US or the telecommunications sector is abysmal in the US.

Re:Ze Germans (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35552650)

They must be a different company in the US or the telecommunications sector is abysmal in the US.

I'd say both are true.

They are a different company in that DT acquired a US company to create T-Mobile USA.

The telecommunications sector in the US is also abysmal.

Re:Ze Germans (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35552676)

More likely a bit of both.

Both (1)

brokeninside (34168) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552738)

T-Mobile USA is not part of T-Mobile International. Formerly Powertel, it was a separate acquisition of Deutsche Telekom and is not under the T-Mobile International umbrella.

That said, the mobile telecommunications sector in the US is pretty abysmal.

Comments from Canada (1)

jiteo (964572) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552532)

You know your telco industry is broken when Canadians are laughing at you.

New round of AT&T / T-Mobile commercials (5, Funny)

Jedi Holocron (225191) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552550)

So, do we get a new round of AT&T vs. T-Mobile commercials? Does the hot T-Mobile Girl start making out with the AT&T Guy?

Or do we see him trying to woo her?

Who get's to be on top? *giggles*

The one with the best customer service? (1)

brokeninside (34168) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552574)

You're joking, right?

According to Consumer's Union, of the national carriers, T*Mobile only ranks ahead of AT&T [cnn.com] .

My experience with TMobile backs up that score. My plan is with them because they're the least expensive. Their customer service is absolute pants.

Far from the best customer service (1)

fuzzylollipop (851039) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552588)

I had my phone stolen from a table at a resturant and a bus boy made hundreds of long distance calls to Mexico placed AFTER I had reported it stolen and asked for it to be de-activated. It took almost 1 year and getting the FCC involved to get T-Mobile off our backs and credit us back the money. And they still turned it over to collections and it took another 6 months to get the collections agencies to quit calling us on something that we didn't even owe. We switched to Cingular ( now AT&T ) and never looked back. Of course in Atlanta, we don't have the apparent problems AT&T have in other major cities.

I can understand... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#35552604)

why this would piss me off. I can understand temporary caps on wireless usage while the infrastructure is developed. Regressing to land lines where they don't even deliver the current product and stifle competition? Oh wait, they aren't just a communications provider anymore. They control content now.

Hello higher prices and less service (1)

scottbomb (1290580) | more than 3 years ago | (#35552620)

I too left AT&T for T-Mobile because I got a great deal on my Blackberry. Truly unlimited internet and they don't mind if I tether. Lower prices too. I guess I can kiss all that goodbye.

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