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The minute it stopped being college-only (Score:2, Insightful)
Facebook became the new AOL.
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Re:The minute it stopped being college-only (Score:4, Funny)
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AOL single-handedly turned usenet into a sewer and destroyed it. Facebook is, itself, a sewer, and a worse one than AOL, but at least it didn't take anything else with it.
Re:The minute it stopped being college-only (Score:4, Insightful)
Didn't take anything with it? Facebook has turned millions of people into insecure social and political zombies.
It is a WMD for the mind. The CDC ought to require a warning label on all FB pages "Consuming this product is prove to be hazardous to your mental health."
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What? You didn't have fun playing those datamining trojans^H^H^H^H^H games in Facebook from companies like Zynga way back when?
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9 Billion!!! You had me worried there for a moment, it's not 9 billion yet. Nor 8.
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What about an option that you keep the account but never or barely use it? ?
I think that's where most of their "members" are. I last looked at mine maybe three years ago; don't they disappear after a period of disuse?
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Fifth Option: (Score:5, Informative)
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Delete that shit.
Re: Fifth Option: (Score:5, Insightful)
You don't need it for that. If your friends can't include you with normal email or sms, you need new friends.
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Because it's so hard to have a mailing list, or just send an email to multiple addresses.
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...various other notification systems exists even in browsers themselves now.
Unfortunately
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You're right, I could jettison all my friends (and the vast majority of new people I meet). Or, I could have FB mail me notifications when I get invited to events. Which is easier....
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I'm not sure of the security risk of having a FB account that emails me when I get invitations. It's not like I'm letting the app run roughshod on my phone, or posting images of myself (or anything.) I mean, they can put together my social graph, but they already have that by scanning my friends' contact lists.
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You're right. They were great up until the point they invited me to something on their platform of choice
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I have a fb account in case my friends set up an event invite, but other than that I try to use it as little as possible.
My fifth option is I created the account, never used it, forgot the password, account is locked, not sending a picture of my driver's license in to unlock it. FB is probably monetizing it somehow...
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I have a fb account in case my friends set up an event invite, but other than that I try to use it as little as possible.
So, you "plan to keep using it" . .. like a tool.
Ooh, the anonymous coward called me a name. I suppose I should go cry to my mama now. If I don't post, don't comment, haven't filled out my profile and log out afterwards, the big bad folks at fb have probably made about 45 cents off of me and know almost nothing interesting about me. I'll take that trade off for the ability for my friends to get a hold of me when needed. If that makes me a tool then so be it.
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... a self-indulgent attention whore who cares to see how others think of them and adjust accordingly...
Not giving a s**t what other people think of you is a sign of being a sociopath. Although not the same thing as psychopaths, they are still not great.
Potential signs of a sociopath...
Does not care what others think of them
Does not care about other peoples unhappiness or suffering
Believer in the "Amurriccann dream" only for white Anglo Males.
Against ANY gun control in case US homicide levels falls to those of Australia or UK.
Refuses to learn other language, STEM or even basic external geography.
flat earther
Other alt right conspiracy ideas
Possible results of being a sociopath
Political conservative
Thinks anyone who is not alt-right is a screaming leftie
Doomsday prepper
Intends to homeschool all their kids
Trump fan
Believer in Manifest Destiny
Distrust of anyone with a college degree, scientists etc
Thinks they can be a conservative and Christian at the same time.
Speaking as someone diagnosed with antisocial personality disorder (sociopath and psychopath aren't medical conditions), I haven't seen something so completely moronic is a while and that's saying something today. NONE of the "results" apply to me or have anything to do with the condition and only two of your "signs" are accurate. In reality, my first thought upon reading your post was that you and any family you have should be put down because you're a worthless drain on the world. Admittedly I don't know
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Wow, citing your opinions and political agendas as facts, you might be a sociopath.
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That's what BCCs on email is for
Insufficient for RSVP invites, which is 90% of the invites I get on FB. Similar to the OP, my FB account exists for a few very specific reasons and contains nothing about me I would be unhappy to have publicly shouted in the center of my city of residence or my workplace.
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And do you always remember to log out of the account, clear your cache and cookies, etc.? Because otherwise, Facebook is probably keeping tabs on all your other online activity, and most of the websites you visit will correlate your visit to your FB logon.
That, to me, is the more dangerous and insidious part of having a faceboo
I don't care (Score:1)
I don't care is missing.
Missing option: have account, don't use it. (Score:2)
Like the subject says. I have an account. My friends can keep me in their friends list. I can get alerted if someone tags me in a photo I don't want to be tagged in. But I don't login or use it otherwise.
I see little hazard in keeping this status quo. Deleting my account seems rather pointless -- I simply no longer maintain it or add content to it, or even log in to see what mundane things other people are posting about.
Yaz
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I'm in a similar boat, I have an account that I check every few months. I never let it touch my phone, and I only log in from a chrome incognito window... while I'm very certain that facebook is actively working to overcome the limitations of incognito mode, I haven't seen a lot of evidence of active tracking like I do with other information harvesting platforms (like Amazon and Google)
At some point I will probably delete FB, but A) I don't feel a strong urgency to do so, and B) I don't think that deleting
How about, "I have no idea" (Score:2)
I don't know what I'll do with my account. I don't really use it except to see pictures of nieces who live across the country. I very rarely post and I usually ignore everyone on the platform. I'd prefer to delete it but until the rest of my immediate family do the same I might be stuck because they're stubborn and won't go out of their way to send/post/etc pictures anywhere else.
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You know perfectly well that all that does to someone is isolates them.
Yeah from spam, crazy theories, racism, sexism, and just plain old stupid.
I don't need pictures from my family. It was either important enough that I went and have the memories, or it wasn't. No big loss on missing out on the pictures for the latter.
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Yeah, it's the same way with me; it bugs them more than me but being stubborn back, as a previous reply stated, only alienates me from family I miss who have moved too far away to join them in those memories. I don't want to use facebook but if I want to keep in touch it's the only way it'll happen at present unfortunately.
Keep the Facebook account and try to FIX Facebook (Score:5, Interesting)
Stop laughing. It isn't supposed to be a joke.
Why are you laughing harder?
First of all, let me try to clarify the threat. I think a lot of people are seriously confused here.
It isn't just the negative stuff that can be used against you, even though it is certain that no one is perfect and that you, too, have certainly made some embarrassing mistakes. Dare I say that most of us have made errors at the level of being blackmail-able? But enough on the negative side. It's also the positive stuff that can be used to manipulate and control you. What are your interests, who are your role models, even where are you strong? Your own strengths can be used in the best jujitsu style to lead you down the worst path.
Personal anecdote time: I now believe I was fooled by Facebook! Shocking! I think my idealism was exploited in 2016 as part of Putin's divide and conquer strategy to weaken the Democratic Party as it stumbled blindly towards the debacle. In hindsight it seems obvious now, but I've seen plenty of Hillary haters and Bernie brothers who have yet to realize how they were jerked around. Hey, it was the First World Cyberwar, and we barely had any idea that we were being attacked. (Now it's clear that war is over, and that America lost. Badly)
So could Facebook be fixed?
Stop laughing so hysterically! You're going to hurt yourself.
Seriously, I think it could be done. I'm not saying it would be trivial, but the basic principles of fixing Facebook are simple. We should know more about who we're talking to and what sort of reputation they have. I call it EPR (for Earned Public Reputation) and it's basically just sharing back with us some of the information that we're currently giving one-way to Facebook. Your EPR should basically be a reflection of public reactions to your public actions, but it needs to be fully symmetric.
How does this fix work? Mostly by making the low-reputation sources less visible. If the default visibility setting was even slightly positive, most of the garbage would be invisible, thus consuming none of our time at all.
(The private information should remain ABSOLUTELY private, which includes Facebook should not be allowed to collect it and use it against us, though that's a different (but related) problem.)
Enough time "invested" (AKA "wasted") this morning, but I'll probably invest some more if you're curious. Even constructive criticisms are welcome. (Advance warning: I'm just going to dismiss the usual rudeness and mindless rants as coming from trolls who feel the threat to their visibility.)
Re:Keep the Facebook account and try to FIX Facebo (Score:4, Insightful)
public masterbation of 2201864 (Score:1)
<sarcasm>Good luck.</sarcasm>
Oh wait. I was supposed to dismiss the usual vile rudeness and mindless rants.
Z^-1
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So Facebook should incorporate the Slashdot moderation system?
I think that's a great idea. I'll mention it to Mark next time we meet. I'm su
public masturbation of 473477 (Score:1)
Z^-2
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So, something along the lines of this?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nosedive
You think we have stopped, comrade...? NEYT! (Score:2)
I don't dispute your assessment of the outcome, but do you think that they aren't still hacking away like mad? Why would they have stopped? We have gutless leadership that won't stand up to them. Putin has suffered in no way as a result of their actions, cyber-warfare is it this point pure win for him, and a pretty cheap option on the whole.
Why w
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I think my idealism was exploited in 2016 as part of Putin's divide and conquer strategy to weaken the Democratic Party as it stumbled blindly towards the debacle. In hindsight it seems obvious now, but I've seen plenty of Hillary haters and Bernie brothers who have yet to realize how they were jerked around. Hey, it was the First World Cyberwar, and we barely had any idea that we were being attacked.
All the evidence says the DNC hurt themselves much more than Putin ever did.
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the DNC hurt themselves
But it was HER TURN!
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We should know more about who we're talking to and what sort of reputation they have.
The name escapes me. What was that sci-fi show episode where a person's guilt/innocence and sentence were determined by social media?
how to delete? (Score:2)
Zuk won't let me!
I used to have an account. (Score:2)
But Facebook closed it for not using real datas like names.
How to Nuke Your Account, Not Just Deactivate (Score:2)
First, download all your data, back up your photos and get contact information from everyone you want to stay in touch with. Then, do as follows...
1. GET VOLUNTEERS. No, seriously. Do this with volunteers from your friends list, or this will get creepy really damn fast.
2. Coordinate this *OFF* Facebook. If they get wind of it, the gig is up, and you'll only get temporarily suspended.
3. Post something controversial/political/religious.
4. Get into a major flamewar with your volunteers.
5. Go Rogue. P
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If you want to make all your info radioactive, and completely unusable for future profit, post LEGAL but disgusting porn in step 3.
Legal - for whom?
For your jurisdiction? For the US jurisdiction (or whatever Facebook's HQ falls under - it being the US this may differ per state of course), or what Zuckerberg himself considers legal/disgusting?
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First, download all your data, back up your photos and get contact information from everyone you want to stay in touch with. Then, do as follows...
1. GET VOLUNTEERS. No, seriously. Do this with volunteers from your friends list, or this will get creepy really damn fast.
2. Coordinate this *OFF* Facebook. If they get wind of it, the gig is up, and you'll only get temporarily suspended.
3. Post something controversial/political/religious.
4. Get into a major flamewar with your volunteers.
5. Go Rogue. Post screen shots of their home address from Google Street View and say scary things like, "Now everyone knows where you live, asshole!"
6. Have the volunteers report you. Tell them to make sure they convey how scared they are, but don't go overboard! You're trying to nuke your account, not SWAT yourself.
*BOOM!*
Your profile will be nuked and unrecoverable.
If you want to make all your info radioactive, and completely unusable for future profit, post LEGAL but disgusting porn in step 3.
just because you can't access it anymore doesn't mean Facebook doesn't still have it and sell it. Just go through the normal procedure of deleting everything, they have to respect that for EU citizens at least and you can hope they are lazy and does the same for all users.
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Never Had An Account, but FB Knows Me (Score:1)
I never had an account at FB, but FB has trackers on many, if not a majority, of web sites and almost certainly knows nearly as much (or even more) as Google does. And that's despite using NoScript and various other tools - they can't stop everything. Yes, paranoid, but likely.
Another missing option: (Score:4, Interesting)
Given what they do with our data, we should fill up FB with garbage profiles, and divert targeted advertising very far from us.
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Fake profile. I am phenomenally wealthy. And yes, I would like to test drive a Bentley for a week or so.
Only used my real telephone (Score:1)
For all its flaws, it is super convenient (Score:3)
I've trimmed my FB account down to the bare basics. I don't have any photos nor videos uploaded, I generally don't write any posts on my wall, I don't participate in any games or quizzes, I don't get into any political discussions or discussions regarding stuff in the news, I also don't get my news from FB links.
All of my likes and group memberships are related to music, so either bands or venues or festivals, or groups specifically for discussing music. My primary use for FB is to have an accessible and structured way to keep track of events and invite friends to said events, and to keep track of updates from artists I like, that don't publish their own newsletters.
Everything I don't find relevant, I put on the block list. I run uBlock Origin, Privacy Badgers, Cookie Autodelete and First Party Isolation, and I have only given FB the very bare minimum permissions it needs to barely function.
FB can be a convenient time-saver and a handy tool, but you really need to put some clear limits in place to what it can and cannot do.
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Another missing option (Score:1)
Whatever my employer tells me to do with it.
My employer required me to set up and maintain a FB account for work related crap but I never, ever used it for personal stuff. I never felt FB was a good communication tool. Pain in the ass to use. As a software professional, when FB first came out I thought it would ultimately prove to be a security nightmare so I stayed away.
I never did that FB shit (Score:1)
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Well, they sell your shopping history to third parties...
Missing option (Score:1)
It has a few uses (Score:2)
Facebook was invitation to career limitation (Score:2)
Why I use Facebook (Score:2)
The biggest waste of human potential since World W (Score:1)
Re: The biggest waste of human potential since Wor (Score:1)
Another Missing Option (Score:2)
I haven't decided yet.
How to use Facebook (Score:2)
1. I only follow my direct friends and family, the schools my kids go to, the museums we are members of, local community organizations, and stores/restaurants we like to go to
2. If anyone posts anything political I unfollow them
3. If anyone posts something nasty I block them
4. I only post pictures of the us and the kids, or links to cool things
5. Every once and a while I go through and tell Facebook I do not like ANY of their recommended links, news articles or users because they are not relevant to me.
This
I Haven't Deleted It Yet.... (Score:1)
A couple of my friends already have deleted theirs and seem generally happier. From the political rants (from every side) to the downright hostility to other views and opinions, they've just had enough. And I'd have to say it's getting more and more appealing.
Ferret
Why not keep using it (Score:2)
Yes Facebook mines a lot of data.
Here's a novel concept - so what? What if I really don't care who sees that data? What if I actually desire targeted vs. random ads?
I think there are a LOT of people (as in well over a majority) that would also not care to this extent.
As for myself, I hardly ever post. What I end up using Facebook more for anything is modern groups like Usenet used to be, only normal people can (mostly) use Facebook groups. Also it is nice to see what friends and family scattered around
Missing option:I signed up as Cowboy Neal (Score:2)
"Filter error: You can type more than that for your comment."
I could, but you really don't want me to.
I Have One But Don't Use It (Score:2)
Weird? Not really. Sometimes friends (actual friends - people I have known for a long time) want me to look at content on the FB page, or sometimes I want to send a message to some entity that only offers that through FB (like a club of which I am a member), or there is a struggling entertainer I like and want to support (by 'liking' them on FB). Sure these interactions are logged forever and a day by FB, but it is fairly minimal data. I have never posted anything to FB. I have not logged in for 6 months or
Never did trust FB, so nothing has changed (Score:2)
Because I'm not a complete dumbass I always have understood that due to the terrible threat it constitutes to my privacy and ultimately to my freedom Facebook is to be trusted as far as I can spit - so I don't overshare, never post anything personal on it, and use it only for (a) ranting about ignorant politicians and other morons, and (b) learning. There are innumerable special interest FB groups you can join, in some of which I have learned very valuable things (Food Preservation Techniques, Fungi Ident
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I've found value in FB. After many years of not giving a crap at all, I set up an account 4 years ago. I only have about 70 friends, and almost all of them I know in real life. I chose people who share and post things that are of interest to me...creative people who post pictures, audio a
A missing option (Score:3)
I don't get it (Score:2)
Ok, sharing my information because a friend played a game is incredibly stupid, and shouldn't have been allowed, however...
I'm having trouble seeing the negative consequences. The information I share about myself on facebook is information that I am willing to share. My political and religious views are not a secret, and I'd rather politicians be aware of my views in the hopes they'll adjust their policy to match.
I'm concerned when there's a data breach at a company that has my credit card information, or a
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The idea is that you leave breadcrumbs.
I shall quote a person who did not exist and yet can explain such matters with greater skill than I.
It was easier to know it than to explain why I know it. If you were asked to prove that two and two made four, you might find some difficulty, and yet you are quite sure of the fact.
When a fact appears to be opposed to a long train of deductions, it invariably proves to be capable of bearing some other interpretation.
In solving a problem of this sort, the grand thing is
Deleted it some time ago (Score:2)
I deleted mine back when the whole shadow profiles story broke - 4 years or so ago. But that has been problematic occasionally. First, that’s still where most of my family posts news now, which means I’m not always up to date regarding what the cousins, nephews, nieces etc are doing. But the bigger issue has been that Facebook lets people create and use accounts with a non-verified email address, and there are some older people who seem to believe my gmail address is actually theirs (seriously -
They get your data regardless of which option (Score:2)
Facebook is still collecting your data.
If you visit any Web site anywhere, that has a "Like us on Facebook" icon (and that's just about all of them), that Web site sends information to Facebook logging the fact that you viewed their site. Some sites go much deeper, sending Facebook detailed information about everything you do on their site.
Facebook can collect a detailed profile on you, identifying who you are and what your interests are, even if you never had a Facebook account.
Some of you noscript people
Fifth option (Score:2)
I have an account, because lots of family members use it. I log in about once a year, and haven't posted anything, well, probably ever.
Missing option (Score:2)
I barely use my account anyway (Score:2)
No poll option (Score:2)
For locked by Facebook for lack of legal documentation of my true name.
I miss it > this much
Deleted it -- about 10 years ago (Score:3)
Too many trolls, too much abuse (Score:2)
When the SNR is shot, there's no value in a service.
Missing option (Score:2)
Whatever (Score:2)
I have 2 Facebook accounts
1. Real. Which I use about once a year. So, my usage will stay the same.
2. Fake. Which I use when a site wants some sort of Fb relationship. Will continue to use. And, I don't really work in Piedmont at a winery, but, I would like to.